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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 980569" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>Two words...."the people".</p><p></p><p>If the Founding Fathers had intended the "civilian militia" interpretation to be used, then the amendment would have read "the right of <u>militia members </u>to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".</p><p></p><p>The Founding Fathers distrusted the opressive nature of large standing armies, and it was their belief that the final gurantee of freedom from a tyrannical government was an <em>armed populace</em>. Hence the inclusion of the 2nd Amendment into the Bill of Rights.</p><p></p><p>The phrase "the people" is used in four <em>other</em> Amendments besides the 2nd. "....The right of <strong><em><u>the people </u></em></strong>to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances" (1st amendment) "The right of <strong><u><em>the people </em></u></strong>to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects..."(4th amendment) "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disarage others retained by <em><u><strong>the people</strong>." (</u>9th amendment.) "</em>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to <u><em><strong>the people</strong>" (</em></u>10th amendment<em><u>.)</u></em></p><p><em><u></u></em></p><p><em><u></u></em>The right of <strong><em><u>the people </u></em></strong>to keep and bear arms is also enshrined in most <em>state</em> constitutions. For example, Section 27 of the Bill Of Rights of Oregon's state constitution reads ...."<u><em><strong>The people </strong></em></u>shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [<em>sic</em>] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power."</p><p></p><p>Like it or not, the 2nd Amendment means what it says. The Founding Fathers recognized the fact that <strong>armed self defense is a fundamental, God-given human right.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 980569, member: 14668"] Two words...."the people". If the Founding Fathers had intended the "civilian militia" interpretation to be used, then the amendment would have read "the right of [U]militia members [/U]to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". The Founding Fathers distrusted the opressive nature of large standing armies, and it was their belief that the final gurantee of freedom from a tyrannical government was an [I]armed populace[/I]. Hence the inclusion of the 2nd Amendment into the Bill of Rights. The phrase "the people" is used in four [I]other[/I] Amendments besides the 2nd. "....The right of [B][I][U]the people [/U][/I][/B]to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances" (1st amendment) "The right of [B][U][I]the people [/I][/U][/B]to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects..."(4th amendment) "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disarage others retained by [I][U][B]the people[/B]." ([/U]9th amendment.) "[/I]The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to [U][I][B]the people[/B]" ([/I][/U]10th amendment[I][U].) [/U][/I]The right of [B][I][U]the people [/U][/I][/B]to keep and bear arms is also enshrined in most [I]state[/I] constitutions. For example, Section 27 of the Bill Of Rights of Oregon's state constitution reads ...."[U][I][B]The people [/B][/I][/U]shall have the right to bear arms for the defence [[I]sic[/I]] of themselves, and the State, but the Military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil power." Like it or not, the 2nd Amendment means what it says. The Founding Fathers recognized the fact that [B]armed self defense is a fundamental, God-given human right. [/B] [/QUOTE]
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