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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 987363" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>First things first SOBER,</p><p></p><p>If you were "KING", this wouldnt be a democracy. Case Closed.</p><p></p><p>Second, you are WRONG about the types of guns being sold at arizona gun shows and new mexico gun shows. Grenade launchers, military style sniper rifles, amour piercing rounds, machine guns, 50 caliber machine guns, hand grenades and the like are being sold right across the border by UNLICENSED gun peddlers. These are americans doing the selling. </p><p></p><p>Dont even attempt to limit the types of weapons being sold at our borders. YOU WANT IT, you can get it without even producing a drivers license.</p><p></p><p>THIS IS WHAT THE NRA WANTS TO CONTINUE ALLOWING.</p><p></p><p>You and the NRA "hide" being personal safety, and the whole "tyranical goverment" thing, but thats what elections are for. Its worked so far for 200 years and not a single shot has been fired since the civil war ended between two opposing political groups.</p><p></p><p>You say you want the 2nd amendment to be clarified as to what it means, because YOU claim that the 2nd amendment gives an individual the right to have a gun for personal use, but when I asked you to show us where in the second amendment that it states that, you immediately bail out of the second amendment and start talking about the BIll Of RIGHTS.</p><p></p><p>You know as well as I , that the second amendment says NOTHING about Individuals having guns for "personal" protection, and its only because of interpretations of right wing justices that the second amendment isnt properly interpreted.</p><p></p><p>The second amendment was written at a time where there were no police, no state police, no border protections from land grabbing, no army, no navy, no national guard, no FBI, no ATF and no established state property.</p><p></p><p>The second amendment allowed the citizens to ARM themselves with weapons, but those weapons were to be kept in ARMORIES (thus where the word came from) in the center of town, and the gun powder to be separated by one floor from the weapons to prevent explosions.</p><p></p><p>If anyone believes that the founders created the second amendment so americans could shoot each other to death on the streets of the USA, or drunk family members could wipe out women and children just because they could, then those people need their heads examined.</p><p></p><p>If the founders could see what they created with the second amendment, I believe they would take it away and leave it up to the law enforcement agencies to protect the citizens, the way it was meant to be.</p><p></p><p>This isnt 1776 and their isnt groups of land grabbers with muskets running around anymore.</p><p></p><p>We are suppose to be a civilized society, but this country is nothing more than an armed society of maniacs killing one another for nothing.</p><p></p><p>If the gun supporters have their way, this country would look like somalia.</p><p><img src="http://cdn6.wn.com/pd/a9/f4/7c4ef33e8836616343f589451cdb_grande.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is what the NRA and its supporters feel is the right thing to do.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 987363, member: 17969"] First things first SOBER, If you were "KING", this wouldnt be a democracy. Case Closed. Second, you are WRONG about the types of guns being sold at arizona gun shows and new mexico gun shows. Grenade launchers, military style sniper rifles, amour piercing rounds, machine guns, 50 caliber machine guns, hand grenades and the like are being sold right across the border by UNLICENSED gun peddlers. These are americans doing the selling. Dont even attempt to limit the types of weapons being sold at our borders. YOU WANT IT, you can get it without even producing a drivers license. THIS IS WHAT THE NRA WANTS TO CONTINUE ALLOWING. You and the NRA "hide" being personal safety, and the whole "tyranical goverment" thing, but thats what elections are for. Its worked so far for 200 years and not a single shot has been fired since the civil war ended between two opposing political groups. You say you want the 2nd amendment to be clarified as to what it means, because YOU claim that the 2nd amendment gives an individual the right to have a gun for personal use, but when I asked you to show us where in the second amendment that it states that, you immediately bail out of the second amendment and start talking about the BIll Of RIGHTS. You know as well as I , that the second amendment says NOTHING about Individuals having guns for "personal" protection, and its only because of interpretations of right wing justices that the second amendment isnt properly interpreted. The second amendment was written at a time where there were no police, no state police, no border protections from land grabbing, no army, no navy, no national guard, no FBI, no ATF and no established state property. The second amendment allowed the citizens to ARM themselves with weapons, but those weapons were to be kept in ARMORIES (thus where the word came from) in the center of town, and the gun powder to be separated by one floor from the weapons to prevent explosions. If anyone believes that the founders created the second amendment so americans could shoot each other to death on the streets of the USA, or drunk family members could wipe out women and children just because they could, then those people need their heads examined. If the founders could see what they created with the second amendment, I believe they would take it away and leave it up to the law enforcement agencies to protect the citizens, the way it was meant to be. This isnt 1776 and their isnt groups of land grabbers with muskets running around anymore. We are suppose to be a civilized society, but this country is nothing more than an armed society of maniacs killing one another for nothing. If the gun supporters have their way, this country would look like somalia. [IMG]http://cdn6.wn.com/pd/a9/f4/7c4ef33e8836616343f589451cdb_grande.jpg[/IMG] This is what the NRA and its supporters feel is the right thing to do. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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