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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 987623" data-attributes="member: 14668">FACT: Functional hand grenades and grenade launchers are ILLEGAL for civilians to own in the United States. You cannot legally buy or sell them at a gun show. You cannot legally buy or sell them at a gun shop. And the NRA has never advocated for the legalization of grenades.FACT: Machine guns are ILLEGAL for civilians to own in the United States without a Class II license, which is extremely rare and difficult to obtain. It is ILLEGAL to buy, sell or transfer a machine gun to an individual without said license. Machine guns are NOT freely sold at gun shows or gun shops.FACT: &quot;Military style sniper rifles&quot; are functionally identical to many conventional scoped hunting rifles. Put a scope on a deer rifle, and you have a &quot;sniper rifle&quot;. Its just a gun with a scope that accurately shoots a bullet at long range, nothing more. There are millions of WWII-era &quot;military style sniper rifles&quot; in circulation all over the world. Multibillion dollar drug cartels can easily obtain them in places other than Arizona.FACT: &quot;Armor piercing ammunition&quot; is a term that accurately applies towards virtually any normal bullet used for hunting. Your great-grandfathers Winchester lever action 30-30 hunting rifle....first produced back in the 1880&#039;s....will easily defeat the body armor worn by police, which is only intended to stop handgun rounds.FACT: The NRA has NEVER advocated breaking the law and it has NEVER advocated the illegal smuggling of weapons across international borders. Your statements are ignorant and without any basis in FACT whatsoever.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 987623, member: 14668"] FACT: Functional hand grenades and grenade launchers are ILLEGAL for civilians to own in the United States. You cannot legally buy or sell them at a gun show. You cannot legally buy or sell them at a gun shop. And the NRA has never advocated for the legalization of grenades. FACT: Machine guns are ILLEGAL for civilians to own in the United States without a Class II license, which is extremely rare and difficult to obtain. It is ILLEGAL to buy, sell or transfer a machine gun to an individual without said license. Machine guns are NOT freely sold at gun shows or gun shops. FACT: "Military style sniper rifles" are functionally identical to many conventional scoped hunting rifles. Put a scope on a deer rifle, and you have a "sniper rifle". Its just a gun with a scope that accurately shoots a bullet at long range, nothing more. There are [I]millions[/I] of WWII-era "military style sniper rifles" in circulation all over the world. Multibillion dollar drug cartels can easily obtain them in places other than Arizona. FACT: "Armor piercing ammunition" is a term that accurately applies towards virtually any normal bullet used for hunting. Your great-grandfathers Winchester lever action 30-30 hunting rifle....first produced back in the 1880's....will [I]easily[/I] defeat the body armor worn by police, which is only intended to stop handgun rounds. FACT: The NRA has NEVER advocated breaking the law and it has NEVER advocated the illegal smuggling of weapons across international borders. Your statements are ignorant and without any basis in FACT whatsoever. [/QUOTE]

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