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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 988049" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>Help me follow your "logic" here TOS, because you are kind of all over the place.</p><p></p><p>In one post, you blame the cartel violence on the "lax gun laws" here in the United States, and say that "gun shows should be banned in the border states."</p><p></p><p>Then in the next post you turn right around and ADMIT that "<strong>we are not talking about LEGAL gun sales, we are talking about ILLEGAL GUN SALES BY AMERICANS TO CARTELS."</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>Obviously, it is a waste of time trying to educate you with any more FACTS about machine guns, grenades and grenade launchers<em> already</em> being ILLEGAL and impossible for Americans to obtain at gun shows or shops. You dont know ( or care to know) enough about guns to comprehend the fact that the "AK-47's" you claim to see being sold on some YouTube video are NOT even AK-47's at all, but AK<strong>M</strong>'s which <em>look</em> the same but which are <strong>NOT machine guns.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>Your problem is simple. Your knee-jerk liberal reaction to the problem of crime is that the <em>only</em> way to get criminals to stop breaking laws is to WRITE MORE LAWS. </p><p></p><p>Dont think; dont get any facts; and for Gods sake whatever you do, dont spend <em>any</em> time or effort investigating the underlying causes of the issue. No, your "solution" to the problem of Americans who <strong>break the law</strong> and smuggle guns into Mexico is to just write MORE warm and fuzzy "feel-good" laws that only the law-abiding will obey in the first place. </p><p></p><p>You know what, TOS? I'm going to go ahead and back you up on this one. Since its already ILLEGAL for Americans to smuggle guns into Mexico...lets make it DOUBLE ILLEGAL. What the hell...lets make it TRIPLE ILLEGAL. Lets make a law that says its ILLEGAL to buy an ILLEGAL gun. Lets make <em>another</em> law that says its ILLEGAL to ILLEGALLY sell an ILLEGAL gun for the purposes of ILLEGALLY smuggling it across a border. By golly, THAT will show those cartels that WE MEAN BUSINESS. We can also declare the <em>entire border </em>an ILLEGAL GUN FREE ZONE and put up signs every 50 feet with a picture of one of those icky "machine guns" (that arent<em> really</em> machine guns but look evil and scary to you) inside a circle with a slash thru it. No guns within 1000 feet of the border. 1000 feet? Hell, lets make it <em>2000</em> feet! Those cartels are screwed now!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 988049, member: 14668"] Help me follow your "logic" here TOS, because you are kind of all over the place. In one post, you blame the cartel violence on the "lax gun laws" here in the United States, and say that "gun shows should be banned in the border states." Then in the next post you turn right around and ADMIT that "[B]we are not talking about LEGAL gun sales, we are talking about ILLEGAL GUN SALES BY AMERICANS TO CARTELS." [/B]Obviously, it is a waste of time trying to educate you with any more FACTS about machine guns, grenades and grenade launchers[I] already[/I] being ILLEGAL and impossible for Americans to obtain at gun shows or shops. You dont know ( or care to know) enough about guns to comprehend the fact that the "AK-47's" you claim to see being sold on some YouTube video are NOT even AK-47's at all, but AK[B]M[/B]'s which [I]look[/I] the same but which are [B]NOT machine guns. [/B]Your problem is simple. Your knee-jerk liberal reaction to the problem of crime is that the [I]only[/I] way to get criminals to stop breaking laws is to WRITE MORE LAWS. Dont think; dont get any facts; and for Gods sake whatever you do, dont spend [I]any[/I] time or effort investigating the underlying causes of the issue. No, your "solution" to the problem of Americans who [B]break the law[/B] and smuggle guns into Mexico is to just write MORE warm and fuzzy "feel-good" laws that only the law-abiding will obey in the first place. You know what, TOS? I'm going to go ahead and back you up on this one. Since its already ILLEGAL for Americans to smuggle guns into Mexico...lets make it DOUBLE ILLEGAL. What the hell...lets make it TRIPLE ILLEGAL. Lets make a law that says its ILLEGAL to buy an ILLEGAL gun. Lets make [I]another[/I] law that says its ILLEGAL to ILLEGALLY sell an ILLEGAL gun for the purposes of ILLEGALLY smuggling it across a border. By golly, THAT will show those cartels that WE MEAN BUSINESS. We can also declare the [I]entire border [/I]an ILLEGAL GUN FREE ZONE and put up signs every 50 feet with a picture of one of those icky "machine guns" (that arent[I] really[/I] machine guns but look evil and scary to you) inside a circle with a slash thru it. No guns within 1000 feet of the border. 1000 feet? Hell, lets make it [I]2000[/I] feet! Those cartels are screwed now!! [/QUOTE]
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