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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 998837" data-attributes="member: 14668">Are you familiar with the term &quot;death by a thousand cuts&quot;?There are politicians (Bloomberg, Feinstein, Daly etc.) as well as influential celebrities such as Rosie O&#039;Donnell and Susan Sarandon, who are adamantly opposed to the 2nd Amendment and who would bury my &quot;rights&quot; under such an impossible tangle of restrictions, fees, bans and waiting periods as to make them meaningless. They are in fact shrill and whiny (ever listen to O&#039;Donnell for any length of time?) and while there is little risk of the 2nd Amendment getting repealed, it can certainly be &quot;bled to death&quot; one cut at a time by such people.I am more than willing to have a discussion about gun laws in this country....but that discussion must start with a recognition of the fact that (a) keeping and bearing arms is a constitutional right and (b) self-defense is a fundamental human right. If you do not recognize these two facts, then we probably dont have much to talk about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 998837, member: 14668"] Are you familiar with the term "death by a thousand cuts"? There are politicians (Bloomberg, Feinstein, Daly etc.) as well as influential celebrities such as Rosie O'Donnell and Susan Sarandon, who are adamantly opposed to the 2nd Amendment and who would bury my "rights" under such an impossible tangle of restrictions, fees, bans and waiting periods as to make them meaningless. They [I]are[/I] in fact shrill and whiny (ever listen to O'Donnell for any length of time?) and while there is little risk of the 2nd Amendment getting repealed, it can certainly be "bled to death" one cut at a time by such people. I am more than willing to have a [I]discussion[/I] about gun laws in this country....but that discussion must [I]start[/I] with a recognition of the fact that (a) keeping and bearing arms is a constitutional right and (b) self-defense is a [U]fundamental human right. [/U]If you do [I]not[/I] recognize these two facts, then we probably dont have much to talk about. [/QUOTE]

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