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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 999120" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Sober,</p><p></p><p>Like I said in my post but you ignore, YOU keep trying to "fit neatly in your box" without regard to anyone else. You CANNOT make a decision for the people around YOU while you John Wayne your way into getting shot.</p><p></p><p>You bet y<strong>our </strong>ash that if you hit the ground in the dark with smoke billowing and the shooter having limited visibility that <strong>YOU</strong> would increase the odds of staying alive. Pulling out <strong>your </strong>beloved backbone and firing at the shooter would only <strong>GUARANTEE</strong> that <strong>YOU</strong> get shot, and not only <strong>YOU</strong> but everyone around you that <strong>YOU</strong> jeopardized with <strong>your</strong> John Wayne behavior.</p><p></p><p>Of course if you are in the first few rows you are more likely to be hit first and that is just common sense, however, another gun(s) in the theatre wasnt, isnt and will never be the answer.</p><p></p><p>The theatre should have had extra staff working inside the theatre securing the exits (they never do) even if it was to protect against people sneaking into the theatre to watch the movie for free. This happens all the time. This Legal gun owner simply bought a ticket, walked into the theatre without detection, went to an exit without detection, propped open a door without detection and walked to his car, suited up, collected his legal firearms and bombs and simply walked back in WITHOUT DETECTION and began shooting.</p><p></p><p>This contribution was the failure of the theatre and theirs only.</p><p></p><p>Many failures contributed to this tragedy, from the gun laws, to the dealers who sold them, to this guys family who knew he was a loose wire, to neighbors who didnt call the police on him the days before while he was blasting music loudly in his apartment to the movie theatre for its lack of personnel.</p><p></p><p>If you just change one thing in this chain, maybe this doesnt happen. </p><p></p><p>Lots of blame to go around.</p><p></p><p>Changing gears for a sec. I listened to Geraldo Rivera radio yesterday, and heard a callier say something interesting. He mentioned that most of the mass killings in this country are committed by white men, and when a foreigner does a mass shooting its called terrorism like major hassan, and when a black person kills more than one person he is called a monster or a devil, or when a mexican kills more than one he is an animal and a gangster, but when the right wing media describes a WHITE SHOOTER, he is always INSANE or CRAZY and did not know what he was doing.</p><p></p><p>And thats the case today. FOX news and its surrogates are cailing this guy insane and did not know what he was doing.</p><p></p><p>Why isnt he called a monster? A devil? A terrorist? A gangster?</p><p></p><p>Why does he get his action reduced to being nuts and not knowing what he was doing?</p><p></p><p>Sober, back to the conversation, you have to lift the lids on your box bro. </p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 999120, member: 17969"] Sober, Like I said in my post but you ignore, YOU keep trying to "fit neatly in your box" without regard to anyone else. You CANNOT make a decision for the people around YOU while you John Wayne your way into getting shot. You bet y[B]our [/B]ash that if you hit the ground in the dark with smoke billowing and the shooter having limited visibility that [B]YOU[/B] would increase the odds of staying alive. Pulling out [B]your [/B]beloved backbone and firing at the shooter would only [B]GUARANTEE[/B] that [B]YOU[/B] get shot, and not only [B]YOU[/B] but everyone around you that [B]YOU[/B] jeopardized with [B]your[/B] John Wayne behavior. Of course if you are in the first few rows you are more likely to be hit first and that is just common sense, however, another gun(s) in the theatre wasnt, isnt and will never be the answer. The theatre should have had extra staff working inside the theatre securing the exits (they never do) even if it was to protect against people sneaking into the theatre to watch the movie for free. This happens all the time. This Legal gun owner simply bought a ticket, walked into the theatre without detection, went to an exit without detection, propped open a door without detection and walked to his car, suited up, collected his legal firearms and bombs and simply walked back in WITHOUT DETECTION and began shooting. This contribution was the failure of the theatre and theirs only. Many failures contributed to this tragedy, from the gun laws, to the dealers who sold them, to this guys family who knew he was a loose wire, to neighbors who didnt call the police on him the days before while he was blasting music loudly in his apartment to the movie theatre for its lack of personnel. If you just change one thing in this chain, maybe this doesnt happen. Lots of blame to go around. Changing gears for a sec. I listened to Geraldo Rivera radio yesterday, and heard a callier say something interesting. He mentioned that most of the mass killings in this country are committed by white men, and when a foreigner does a mass shooting its called terrorism like major hassan, and when a black person kills more than one person he is called a monster or a devil, or when a mexican kills more than one he is an animal and a gangster, but when the right wing media describes a WHITE SHOOTER, he is always INSANE or CRAZY and did not know what he was doing. And thats the case today. FOX news and its surrogates are cailing this guy insane and did not know what he was doing. Why isnt he called a monster? A devil? A terrorist? A gangster? Why does he get his action reduced to being nuts and not knowing what he was doing? Sober, back to the conversation, you have to lift the lids on your box bro. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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