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Has Hoffa and the IBT surrendered?
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<blockquote data-quote="705red" data-source="post: 712590" data-attributes="member: 5229"><p><span style="color: blue">No Red no spin, just appears you were speaking out of both sides of your mouth.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Actually I don't know your grievance system well enough to think you would only be blaming Hoffa for it.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">for some silly reason I thought your grievance system was implemented prior to Hoffa.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I thank you for clarifying the point that you were really trying to blame Hoffa for the national grievance processes failures.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">With that said I did see all the cases you posted. It appears your locals did win a lot of cases in the various panels. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The part I guess I don't understand is how you would blame Hoffa for the losses, I guess you're not giving him credit for the wins? Did Hoffa actually present the cases at these panels?</span></p></blockquote><p></p><p> </p><p>Its Hoffa people that sit on the panel for the union side, you know the ines that crawl under the blamket with the company to spoon. Thats the problem with the panel, my only other beef would be it should meeat more reuglarly. 4 times a year is not enough..</p><p> </p><p>You think Ron Carey would let these jobs get eliminated? Hell no!</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="705red, post: 712590, member: 5229"] [COLOR=blue]No Red no spin, just appears you were speaking out of both sides of your mouth.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Actually I don't know your grievance system well enough to think you would only be blaming Hoffa for it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]for some silly reason I thought your grievance system was implemented prior to Hoffa.:happy2:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]I thank you for clarifying the point that you were really trying to blame Hoffa for the national grievance processes failures.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]With that said I did see all the cases you posted. It appears your locals did win a lot of cases in the various panels. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]The part I guess I don't understand is how you would blame Hoffa for the losses, I guess you're not giving him credit for the wins? Did Hoffa actually present the cases at these panels?[/COLOR][/QUOTE] Its Hoffa people that sit on the panel for the union side, you know the ines that crawl under the blamket with the company to spoon. Thats the problem with the panel, my only other beef would be it should meeat more reuglarly. 4 times a year is not enough.. You think Ron Carey would let these jobs get eliminated? Hell no! [/QUOTE]
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