Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
Has our union proven themselves useless at this point?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1468591" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>The very premise or motivation of this thread is ridiculous at best. With every organization, there will be mis-steps and mis-calculations. Corporate America is no different. Look at UPS non union. They took away medical coverage for spouses, not because of ObamaCare, but because they COULD.</p><p></p><p>Whatever a non union company wants to do to its employees, it will. Its the "new" American Way.</p><p></p><p>TO the point of whether or not the UNION is useless or not, ask yourself this question:</p><p></p><p>"am I still employed at UPS?"</p><p></p><p>If you are NOT, then the UNION is useless, if you are, then just simply say THANK YOU for protecting my job security.</p><p></p><p>If the Teamsters were voted out or decertified, ALL OF US would be on the pavement sooner than later. If you think otherwise, than you are simply an IDIOT for a lack of a better definition.</p><p></p><p>UPS would get rid of all of us.</p><p></p><p>Lets make one thing perfectly clear MOTHERTRUCKER.</p><p></p><p>The only PROTECTION from the UNION that you should be kissing the ash of the Teamsters for is placing you in a classification of BARGAINING UNIT MEMBER.</p><p></p><p>This protection prevents the company from chittcanning you for whatever reason they want to. </p><p></p><p>Unlike "AT WILL " employees, which are EVERY worker not covered by a Union Contract, ANY company can a fired an employee for any reason they want other than discriminatory reasons.</p><p></p><p>If they dont like your hair, POOF , youre gone.</p><p></p><p>IF they dont like your performance, POOF, youre gone.</p><p></p><p>They dont need a reason.</p><p></p><p>But you are a UNION MEMBER. And that "bargaining Unit" protection is the greatest aspect of being a UNION member.</p><p></p><p>For you to question the status of the UNION is nonsensical.</p><p></p><p>Leaders will make err's, and thats where "WE" as members have the power to make change to prevent future mistakes.</p><p></p><p>This whole thread is nothing more than silly talk outside the scope of being a protected union member.</p><p></p><p>If you believe for one second, that getting rid of the Teamsters would improve your working conditions because UPS wants to "take care of you", then in my opinion, youre one stupid dude.</p><p></p><p>The company would immediately move to cut wages, put in earning caps, take away pensions, make the job harder and move to see that NO employee lasts longer than 10 years.</p><p></p><p>Thats how you save money. Its what corporate America does to every other working entity in the country.</p><p></p><p>Turnover is the key, not longevity.</p><p></p><p>You best get your priorities in order and get a better understanding of what the UNION does for you.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1468591, member: 17969"] The very premise or motivation of this thread is ridiculous at best. With every organization, there will be mis-steps and mis-calculations. Corporate America is no different. Look at UPS non union. They took away medical coverage for spouses, not because of ObamaCare, but because they COULD. Whatever a non union company wants to do to its employees, it will. Its the "new" American Way. TO the point of whether or not the UNION is useless or not, ask yourself this question: "am I still employed at UPS?" If you are NOT, then the UNION is useless, if you are, then just simply say THANK YOU for protecting my job security. If the Teamsters were voted out or decertified, ALL OF US would be on the pavement sooner than later. If you think otherwise, than you are simply an IDIOT for a lack of a better definition. UPS would get rid of all of us. Lets make one thing perfectly clear MOTHERTRUCKER. The only PROTECTION from the UNION that you should be kissing the ash of the Teamsters for is placing you in a classification of BARGAINING UNIT MEMBER. This protection prevents the company from chittcanning you for whatever reason they want to. Unlike "AT WILL " employees, which are EVERY worker not covered by a Union Contract, ANY company can a fired an employee for any reason they want other than discriminatory reasons. If they dont like your hair, POOF , youre gone. IF they dont like your performance, POOF, youre gone. They dont need a reason. But you are a UNION MEMBER. And that "bargaining Unit" protection is the greatest aspect of being a UNION member. For you to question the status of the UNION is nonsensical. Leaders will make err's, and thats where "WE" as members have the power to make change to prevent future mistakes. This whole thread is nothing more than silly talk outside the scope of being a protected union member. If you believe for one second, that getting rid of the Teamsters would improve your working conditions because UPS wants to "take care of you", then in my opinion, youre one stupid dude. The company would immediately move to cut wages, put in earning caps, take away pensions, make the job harder and move to see that NO employee lasts longer than 10 years. Thats how you save money. Its what corporate America does to every other working entity in the country. Turnover is the key, not longevity. You best get your priorities in order and get a better understanding of what the UNION does for you. TOS. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
Has our union proven themselves useless at this point?
Top