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<blockquote data-quote="badpas" data-source="post: 194068" data-attributes="member: 8876"><p>This is all common knowledge and whoever you were talking about I'm sure has a better understanding of what is going on. </p><p>However, cs is a division of the teamsters and there are UPS members on the board because they have a vested interest too. This is why most of us have seen Eskew himself in a court of law testifying that upsers are only getting 40% of their pension dollars invested. And at the same time I'm not saying that UPS is perfect in anyway because we all know what they've done and could do again. But we still have some major hills to climb and correct if we're going to get ourselves out of the red and into the area where we all should be because the amount of money that the company puts in for us{because of us} is more than enough to be able to retire in half the years. And lets not forget its also the teamsters that set all the stupid rules that handcuff everyone when we finally can retire. I've seen with my own 2 eyes how cs can overload many funds so it can cause short term bennifits but in reality its just a bandade. Because all this does is bring other funds down which means thats even less the other funds could make in interest even on a good year. The point is that defending one group just because you like wearing their badge or because you are 3rd generation teamster, if they screw you long enough and maybe thats to harsh for you, change will be in their future. It would be the same for the apwa if they were doing the same thing. But for now, they are our only avenue, and if anyone who doesn't believe just go to a meeting and you'll see that the way they propose is the way it should have been in the first place. This is why the teamsters are not fighting them that much yet because all they have to do is pass out some flyers saying its not possible and its not ever going to happen and they know that there are very few people that will do anything more. This is our future we're talking about and if they don't want to fix ourselves then we'll do it ourselves. This is exactly how and why the apwa was started. This is exactly why the pilots voted out the teamsters and wouldn't have it any other way. This is why overnite/ ups freight didn't want them and if they're smart they still wouldn't want them. Lets not forget if they had been doing their job in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation. So actually, once we vote them out we can thank them for thinking we were uneducated and not selfmotivating people who couldn't do anything without them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="badpas, post: 194068, member: 8876"] This is all common knowledge and whoever you were talking about I'm sure has a better understanding of what is going on. However, cs is a division of the teamsters and there are UPS members on the board because they have a vested interest too. This is why most of us have seen Eskew himself in a court of law testifying that upsers are only getting 40% of their pension dollars invested. And at the same time I'm not saying that UPS is perfect in anyway because we all know what they've done and could do again. But we still have some major hills to climb and correct if we're going to get ourselves out of the red and into the area where we all should be because the amount of money that the company puts in for us{because of us} is more than enough to be able to retire in half the years. And lets not forget its also the teamsters that set all the stupid rules that handcuff everyone when we finally can retire. I've seen with my own 2 eyes how cs can overload many funds so it can cause short term bennifits but in reality its just a bandade. Because all this does is bring other funds down which means thats even less the other funds could make in interest even on a good year. The point is that defending one group just because you like wearing their badge or because you are 3rd generation teamster, if they screw you long enough and maybe thats to harsh for you, change will be in their future. It would be the same for the apwa if they were doing the same thing. But for now, they are our only avenue, and if anyone who doesn't believe just go to a meeting and you'll see that the way they propose is the way it should have been in the first place. This is why the teamsters are not fighting them that much yet because all they have to do is pass out some flyers saying its not possible and its not ever going to happen and they know that there are very few people that will do anything more. This is our future we're talking about and if they don't want to fix ourselves then we'll do it ourselves. This is exactly how and why the apwa was started. This is exactly why the pilots voted out the teamsters and wouldn't have it any other way. This is why overnite/ ups freight didn't want them and if they're smart they still wouldn't want them. Lets not forget if they had been doing their job in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation. So actually, once we vote them out we can thank them for thinking we were uneducated and not selfmotivating people who couldn't do anything without them. [/QUOTE]
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