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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 592762" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">Georgia,</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">many posters here giving you support and sympathy. That won't help you at the panel. You need to pay attention to the other side and the questions being asked. These you could hear at the panel and these you have to be prepared to answer.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The I've always done it this way and I never knew it was wrong defense is weak. It won't help you. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue">You mentioned earlier that the divison manager also threw in other write ups and talk withs into the case. Was the discharge strictly for dishonesty or did they also throw in your overall work record. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">What documented training have you had. If they have anything in your file that shows you were trained on the correct exception codes to use then that will make things more difficult. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">You have to accept the point that their argument is a convincing one. You have twenty years with the company and claim you did not know the code you used was wrong. You have delivered the same route for five years and did not know what you were supposed to do. You can't dispute the argument that you used a holiday exception code on a non holiday.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The question I would have is what would possibly make you think you would use a closed holiday code on a non-holiday. You're not answering it very well though and I don't know that there is a good answer for it.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">In either case I don't think the punishment fits the crime. If you're intent was to be dishonest then what was the gain? not filling out an info notice? Laziness.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">But at some point when things get better you have to do some soul searching. You clearly did something very odd that led up to these events. The prisoner UPS did not make you code that as a closed holiday. You have to fix yourself and your logic process so you don't face this situation again. Blaming ups even if this discharge is a little extreme does not fix the root problem here. </span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Not trying to offend you just trying to give you a little honest feedback.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 592762, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]Georgia,[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]many posters here giving you support and sympathy. That won't help you at the panel. You need to pay attention to the other side and the questions being asked. These you could hear at the panel and these you have to be prepared to answer.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]The I've always done it this way and I never knew it was wrong defense is weak. It won't help you. [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]You mentioned earlier that the divison manager also threw in other write ups and talk withs into the case. Was the discharge strictly for dishonesty or did they also throw in your overall work record. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]What documented training have you had. If they have anything in your file that shows you were trained on the correct exception codes to use then that will make things more difficult. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]You have to accept the point that their argument is a convincing one. You have twenty years with the company and claim you did not know the code you used was wrong. You have delivered the same route for five years and did not know what you were supposed to do. You can't dispute the argument that you used a holiday exception code on a non holiday.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]The question I would have is what would possibly make you think you would use a closed holiday code on a non-holiday. You're not answering it very well though and I don't know that there is a good answer for it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]In either case I don't think the punishment fits the crime. If you're intent was to be dishonest then what was the gain? not filling out an info notice? Laziness.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]But at some point when things get better you have to do some soul searching. You clearly did something very odd that led up to these events. The prisoner UPS did not make you code that as a closed holiday. You have to fix yourself and your logic process so you don't face this situation again. Blaming ups even if this discharge is a little extreme does not fix the root problem here. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Not trying to offend you just trying to give you a little honest feedback.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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