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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 351474" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Mike Hawk,</p><p> </p><p>you wrote:</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I am not sure where you apply this logic, but lets address it anyway.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>How do you apply this to the situation at hand? A fair days work principle is subjective to each individual employee. Performance is determined individually and not collectively.</p><p> </p><p>If one preloader/splitter loads 4 cars and another loads 2 cars, how is this a violation of this principle?</p><p> </p><p>By measurement individually, its the companies job to determine if an employees workpace meets the fair days work principle.</p><p> </p><p>Merely having another employee exceeding anothers performance does not make conflict. </p><p> </p><p>As I said before, this is a company issue, not an employee vs employee issue. The contract protects the employees and not the employees feelings.</p><p> </p><p>While one employee may not like the pace of work of another, "<em>its none of their business."</em></p><p> </p><p>As I explained, the by-laws of the international and local unions, prohibit any employee from taking action against another union member that results in discipline.</p><p> </p><p>Action then would, could and should be taken against ANY union member that goes out of his way to communicate to the company any information detrimental to another employee.</p><p> </p><p>As for hypocrisy, there is none and I dont know what your referring to, but then again, I dont think you know either.</p><p> </p><p>An employees responsibility is to manage themselves and not the other employees. "snitching" is not part of anyones job description.</p><p> </p><p>If the employee in question is in fact not doing his job to the satisfaction of the company, then its the companies job to make that determination.</p><p> </p><p>Reading between the lines here, I see a conflict of a racial nature.</p><p> </p><p>Using "only" the "syntax" of the original posters words, he is white and the employee he is snitching on is black.</p><p> </p><p>I believe this to be the bigger issue at hand.</p><p> </p><p>I find this more troubling.</p><p> </p><p>In this day and age, race should play no part in the workplace, we are all union brothers and sisters. If the original poster feels that it is unfair to do more work, then the choice is his.</p><p> </p><p>In package, I am able to run my route (a heavy p12) everyday and get done on time, yet, the utility drivers who cover while I am out or conducting union business do my route in 11.5 hours.</p><p> </p><p>Should I run and scream to the managers about performance?</p><p> </p><p>Its none of my business, thats a supervisors job to determine if the ultility drivers are doing a "fair days work", not mine.</p><p> </p><p>You, or any other union member should not encourage this young man to do anything but his job. Focus on himself, if he wants to load 4,5 or 6 cars cause he can, then thats his business.</p><p> </p><p>But if theres another employee loading 2, then its not his position to worry about it, whether he's singing and dancing or not.</p><p> </p><p>If its black people he is concerned with, well get over it, its 2008 people.</p><p> </p><p>Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 351474, member: 12148"] Mike Hawk, you wrote: I am not sure where you apply this logic, but lets address it anyway. How do you apply this to the situation at hand? A fair days work principle is subjective to each individual employee. Performance is determined individually and not collectively. If one preloader/splitter loads 4 cars and another loads 2 cars, how is this a violation of this principle? By measurement individually, its the companies job to determine if an employees workpace meets the fair days work principle. Merely having another employee exceeding anothers performance does not make conflict. As I said before, this is a company issue, not an employee vs employee issue. The contract protects the employees and not the employees feelings. While one employee may not like the pace of work of another, "[I]its none of their business."[/I] As I explained, the by-laws of the international and local unions, prohibit any employee from taking action against another union member that results in discipline. Action then would, could and should be taken against ANY union member that goes out of his way to communicate to the company any information detrimental to another employee. As for hypocrisy, there is none and I dont know what your referring to, but then again, I dont think you know either. An employees responsibility is to manage themselves and not the other employees. "snitching" is not part of anyones job description. If the employee in question is in fact not doing his job to the satisfaction of the company, then its the companies job to make that determination. Reading between the lines here, I see a conflict of a racial nature. Using "only" the "syntax" of the original posters words, he is white and the employee he is snitching on is black. I believe this to be the bigger issue at hand. I find this more troubling. In this day and age, race should play no part in the workplace, we are all union brothers and sisters. If the original poster feels that it is unfair to do more work, then the choice is his. In package, I am able to run my route (a heavy p12) everyday and get done on time, yet, the utility drivers who cover while I am out or conducting union business do my route in 11.5 hours. Should I run and scream to the managers about performance? Its none of my business, thats a supervisors job to determine if the ultility drivers are doing a "fair days work", not mine. You, or any other union member should not encourage this young man to do anything but his job. Focus on himself, if he wants to load 4,5 or 6 cars cause he can, then thats his business. But if theres another employee loading 2, then its not his position to worry about it, whether he's singing and dancing or not. If its black people he is concerned with, well get over it, its 2008 people. Peace:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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