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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UnconTROLLed" data-source="post: 898018" data-attributes="member: 18708">As the argument goes, the founders of this country told Britain to buzz off, basically, and said we are not recognizing you as our rulers anymore. If a group of people were to do that today in the U.S.,  did not recognize the laws, politicians,  the taxation and everything else that comes with mainstream society, they would be infiltrated by the gov't and put in prison.    You are missing the intent of my post - it is that UPSlifer was basically stating that unless you have a better idea for a presidential candidate and  generally something constructed upon the present system of government and economy, then you do not have room to be critical of that very system.     And that line "not voting is a cop out" is absurdity and a cop-out in itself, at best.</blockquote>