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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 853069" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I always find it interesting that when you speak of something like High Speed Rail for example, an argument against is from a free market perspective against such means of public owned eg gov't transportation and IMO they would be right. However, IMO where that debate is lost from that perspective is when that same person argues for private cars and that transportation solutions are in more roads and for the gov't to allow more oil drilling on gov't controlled land and offshore areas. So how is this free market? How is this not public transportation by other means? It's not and it is and therefore the problem.</p><p></p><p>Also the other question is how did we even get where we are now and the debate over roads verses rail? I found this old documentary worth watching in considering that point and just who really was involved in it all. I've posted it before elsewhere but IMO it clearly shows a supposed "free market" player using gov't at certain levels not for purely free market ends but a warped version of it.</p><p></p><p>And in small communities, a lot of what you thought were publically owned transportation were instead private companies that also went down at the hands of a private/gov't alliance to re-shape public policy. And you thought the recent gov't bailout of GM was the first time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 853069, member: 2189"] I always find it interesting that when you speak of something like High Speed Rail for example, an argument against is from a free market perspective against such means of public owned eg gov't transportation and IMO they would be right. However, IMO where that debate is lost from that perspective is when that same person argues for private cars and that transportation solutions are in more roads and for the gov't to allow more oil drilling on gov't controlled land and offshore areas. So how is this free market? How is this not public transportation by other means? It's not and it is and therefore the problem. Also the other question is how did we even get where we are now and the debate over roads verses rail? I found this old documentary worth watching in considering that point and just who really was involved in it all. I've posted it before elsewhere but IMO it clearly shows a supposed "free market" player using gov't at certain levels not for purely free market ends but a warped version of it. And in small communities, a lot of what you thought were publically owned transportation were instead private companies that also went down at the hands of a private/gov't alliance to re-shape public policy. And you thought the recent gov't bailout of GM was the first time! [/QUOTE]
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