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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 857408" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>A year or so ago, The American Conservative magazine's parent company created a conservative think-tank dedicated to transportation issues looking as various means of mass and public transportation from all facets of the paleo-conservative POV. The organization is called <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/cpt/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Center for Public Transportation</span></a> and these folks have come at mass and public transportation with a different view from the typical assumed conservative position. </p><p></p><p>Recently, William Lind wrote <a href="http://www.amconmag.com/cpt/2011/06/15/the-rising-cost-of-cars/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">a piece</span></a> about the actual cost of the automobile and then compared those cost impacts not only from it's micro economic perspective but it's macro as well and then comparing the economics of it to make a larger point about rethinking mass and public transit. Well before anyone screams socialism about mass transit, before the automakes, oil, rubber and other interests manipulated the marketplace to drive up auto sales and thus butter their own biscuits (using public butter), many of our city and town's mass transit systems were privately owned and yet served a greater public good. It also should be pointed out that if you want to cry socialism, think of all the massive public costs involved and needed in order for any or us to go out and get into our cars to drive down the road. On pure economics, the case might be made that the car is not the best allocation of resources and that some manner of mass transit (yes, even the privately owned kind) is in fact that best allocation. And BTW I also believe "ALL" roads should be privately built and owned too so consider that point as you read this post.</p><p></p><p>Bill Lind also a little over a month ago <a href="http://saportareport.com/blog/2011/06/conservative-leader-makes-case-for-rail-transit-in-metro-atlanta/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">spoke </span></a>in Atlanta to the Sustainable Atlanta Roundtable and he makes a very preliminary case from a paleo-conservative POV for rail and street car mass transit. In respect to Obama and rail, there is much about this President I don't like. But being the state as it is per the vast majority of people will for the most part stay the same, Obama's self interest in using rail and mass transit as a shovel ready project deserves questioning but in the larger picture, he may actually be right!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 857408, member: 2189"] A year or so ago, The American Conservative magazine's parent company created a conservative think-tank dedicated to transportation issues looking as various means of mass and public transportation from all facets of the paleo-conservative POV. The organization is called [URL="http://www.amconmag.com/cpt/"][COLOR=#ff0000]Center for Public Transportation[/COLOR][/URL] and these folks have come at mass and public transportation with a different view from the typical assumed conservative position. Recently, William Lind wrote [URL="http://www.amconmag.com/cpt/2011/06/15/the-rising-cost-of-cars/"][COLOR=#ff0000]a piece[/COLOR][/URL] about the actual cost of the automobile and then compared those cost impacts not only from it's micro economic perspective but it's macro as well and then comparing the economics of it to make a larger point about rethinking mass and public transit. Well before anyone screams socialism about mass transit, before the automakes, oil, rubber and other interests manipulated the marketplace to drive up auto sales and thus butter their own biscuits (using public butter), many of our city and town's mass transit systems were privately owned and yet served a greater public good. It also should be pointed out that if you want to cry socialism, think of all the massive public costs involved and needed in order for any or us to go out and get into our cars to drive down the road. On pure economics, the case might be made that the car is not the best allocation of resources and that some manner of mass transit (yes, even the privately owned kind) is in fact that best allocation. And BTW I also believe "ALL" roads should be privately built and owned too so consider that point as you read this post. Bill Lind also a little over a month ago [URL="http://saportareport.com/blog/2011/06/conservative-leader-makes-case-for-rail-transit-in-metro-atlanta/"][COLOR=#ff0000]spoke [/COLOR][/URL]in Atlanta to the Sustainable Atlanta Roundtable and he makes a very preliminary case from a paleo-conservative POV for rail and street car mass transit. In respect to Obama and rail, there is much about this President I don't like. But being the state as it is per the vast majority of people will for the most part stay the same, Obama's self interest in using rail and mass transit as a shovel ready project deserves questioning but in the larger picture, he may actually be right! [/QUOTE]
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