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<blockquote data-quote="brett636" data-source="post: 1054484" data-attributes="member: 249"><p>I don't see Hillary running in 2016. I see pictures of her today 4 years prior to that election and she looks old, wrinkled, and tired. I don't think that will improve over the next 4 years, and to be perfectly honest my bet is that she is holding her last public office before returning to private citizenship with Bill as soon as she leaves her current position.</p><p></p><p>Honestly I see 3 outcomes for the democrat primaries for 2016.</p><p></p><p>1. Obama figures out someway to finagle himself out of honoring the Constitutional amendment regarding Presidential term limits. I know he would have to repeal the 22nd amendment to do this technically, but constitutional amendments have not stopped him yet so why would this one?</p><p></p><p>2. Michelle runs for President to try and keep the Obama's in power. Its not about just winning elections anymore for this particular family, its about maintaining power as all rulers seek to do. I see this as a real possibility seeing as she doesn't have the negatives that Hillary has in the public eye and is younger.</p><p></p><p>3. Joe Biden runs for President. I am not quite certain Joe can run the tables and survive the primary process, but anything is possible in this "Who can give out the most free stuff" mentality of the democrat party. Since it really comes down to who can promise the most to those who don't want to work for it, and Joe has the time in as Vice President behind him he very well could be the democrat nominee for 2016. </p><p></p><p>These scenarios are assuming our country survives till the 2016 election because as our debt mounts there is no telling what shape we will be in by 2016. If the currency collapses and the debt is defaulted on then all bets are off because by then elections will probably not be held nor would they be necessary. This country will go down in flames like so many great nations and empires before it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brett636, post: 1054484, member: 249"] I don't see Hillary running in 2016. I see pictures of her today 4 years prior to that election and she looks old, wrinkled, and tired. I don't think that will improve over the next 4 years, and to be perfectly honest my bet is that she is holding her last public office before returning to private citizenship with Bill as soon as she leaves her current position. Honestly I see 3 outcomes for the democrat primaries for 2016. 1. Obama figures out someway to finagle himself out of honoring the Constitutional amendment regarding Presidential term limits. I know he would have to repeal the 22nd amendment to do this technically, but constitutional amendments have not stopped him yet so why would this one? 2. Michelle runs for President to try and keep the Obama's in power. Its not about just winning elections anymore for this particular family, its about maintaining power as all rulers seek to do. I see this as a real possibility seeing as she doesn't have the negatives that Hillary has in the public eye and is younger. 3. Joe Biden runs for President. I am not quite certain Joe can run the tables and survive the primary process, but anything is possible in this "Who can give out the most free stuff" mentality of the democrat party. Since it really comes down to who can promise the most to those who don't want to work for it, and Joe has the time in as Vice President behind him he very well could be the democrat nominee for 2016. These scenarios are assuming our country survives till the 2016 election because as our debt mounts there is no telling what shape we will be in by 2016. If the currency collapses and the debt is defaulted on then all bets are off because by then elections will probably not be held nor would they be necessary. This country will go down in flames like so many great nations and empires before it. [/QUOTE]
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