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<blockquote data-quote="Brownnblue" data-source="post: 298307" data-attributes="member: 1941"><p>Ryan, I am not trying to insult you all, far from it. Quite frankly, I am impressed that you did a good job on your oral exam. My point on the oral exam is that it is considered generally more difficult to take than a written test for a number of reasons, probably the main one being the simple fact that most people have taken very few of them in their lifetime.</p><p> </p><p>I obviously did a pretty lousy job of trying to make my point, let me try to redirect. You stated that you did have classroom discussion and demonstration in your driver orientation, and that this helped you know the elements that you had to memorize. Current drivers do not have this luxury. Our only way of being exposed to the material is through a quick briefing during a PCM (when there are many distractions) and text message sometime during the day.</p><p> </p><p>It is pretty safe to assume that at least a percentage of current drivers are having difficulties being able to recall the elements of the keys & habits; if it wasn't this thread probably would not have been started. My point was that if UPS would take the time to sit the current drivers down and go over these things that we need to memorize, that not only would audit scores drastically improve, but the drivers would conceptually have a better idea of what the seeing elements are trying to enforce; thus making for better drivers and safer work habits.</p><p> </p><p>Instead, we get "learning through intimidation" as Mr. 98917 Anonymous so clearly stated earlier in this thread. Suppose a driver has a learning disability; where would he go for help? Suppose a driver simply learns more efficiently when exposed to more teaching angles? There are consequences in not being able to recall this stuff, 98917 went so far as to say discharge. Other posters said warning letters.</p><p> </p><p>Let me try to sum it up: if current drivers had classroom time such as you had I don't think they would be having too much of a problem with recalling the needed elements as they seem to be having. But they really don't have anything remotely close, thus all the problems.</p><p> </p><p>Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brownnblue, post: 298307, member: 1941"] Ryan, I am not trying to insult you all, far from it. Quite frankly, I am impressed that you did a good job on your oral exam. My point on the oral exam is that it is considered generally more difficult to take than a written test for a number of reasons, probably the main one being the simple fact that most people have taken very few of them in their lifetime. I obviously did a pretty lousy job of trying to make my point, let me try to redirect. You stated that you did have classroom discussion and demonstration in your driver orientation, and that this helped you know the elements that you had to memorize. Current drivers do not have this luxury. Our only way of being exposed to the material is through a quick briefing during a PCM (when there are many distractions) and text message sometime during the day. It is pretty safe to assume that at least a percentage of current drivers are having difficulties being able to recall the elements of the keys & habits; if it wasn't this thread probably would not have been started. My point was that if UPS would take the time to sit the current drivers down and go over these things that we need to memorize, that not only would audit scores drastically improve, but the drivers would conceptually have a better idea of what the seeing elements are trying to enforce; thus making for better drivers and safer work habits. Instead, we get "learning through intimidation" as Mr. 98917 Anonymous so clearly stated earlier in this thread. Suppose a driver has a learning disability; where would he go for help? Suppose a driver simply learns more efficiently when exposed to more teaching angles? There are consequences in not being able to recall this stuff, 98917 went so far as to say discharge. Other posters said warning letters. Let me try to sum it up: if current drivers had classroom time such as you had I don't think they would be having too much of a problem with recalling the needed elements as they seem to be having. But they really don't have anything remotely close, thus all the problems. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. [/QUOTE]
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