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<blockquote data-quote="AKCoverMan" data-source="post: 5152362" data-attributes="member: 17867"><p>What’s interesting is all the stuff that is NOT figured in,</p><p></p><p>Basically you get a short amount of AM time, a short amount of PM time and your paid breaks as a start of “allowed time”. Then each stop in a particular area gets a standard allowance of time with a small additional allowance for mutil packages and another small allowance for over 70. Not every irregular counts.. i.e. set of four truck tires weighing 68lbs are same as four letter envelopes. </p><p></p><p>Then you get an allowance for getting to/from area and this number can be way off, and never in you ur favor. Then they add an average amount of time (optimistic based on ideal conditions) for every mile you drive on area. The total of these allowances is added up and compared with your actual paid day and the difference is “over allowed”. There’s a report for your route called the “Planned Day Report” made obnoxiously difficult to read as they express all the time allowances in “hours” so the resi stop allowance will be something like “0.0083 hours” instead of 30 secs. A few addons at the end.. I.e. other work codes like training or approved meeting are backed out. If you pull a P-60 you get a little time for each couple and uncouple.</p><p></p><p>What are not in there....</p><p></p><p>Time spent walking the stop off, time to fill out info notes, time to search in your car, time to open and close gates, time to put on, remove, adjust, fix tire chains, time to answer messages from center, basically anything you have to do every day that’s not in my first two paragraphs above... you get zero allowance for. I’m sure there’s more I’m not thinking of now. I have a stop that has to be in 4x4 during winter but they don’t assign me one so it’s 15 minute round trip walk assuming the package is able to be carried because a handcart is futile. I get about 30 secs allowance, Last winter I kept track of walking time a couple days.. well over an hour with no allowance. (If I can’t walk it off I get s 4x4 at end of night when driver done with it and go back, creating even more “over allowed” since the plan didn’t call for double trip.)</p><p></p><p>Had argument one night with ORS about being told to sheet packages as “weather delay” when it was clearly not a severe weather day, everything plowed, just a normal December day, He stated that “of course” it’s weather,,,he could show me figures that prove we can’t go as fast in December as June. </p><p></p><p>Seriously? If you have those figures why not use them?</p><p></p><p>I frankly have not paid much attention to my own numbers for some time, They are laughable, the formula is not based in reality. If ever questioned I will tell em “better do a ride along with me and show me what I’m doing wrong, I’d love to finish earlier!” This never happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AKCoverMan, post: 5152362, member: 17867"] What’s interesting is all the stuff that is NOT figured in, Basically you get a short amount of AM time, a short amount of PM time and your paid breaks as a start of “allowed time”. Then each stop in a particular area gets a standard allowance of time with a small additional allowance for mutil packages and another small allowance for over 70. Not every irregular counts.. i.e. set of four truck tires weighing 68lbs are same as four letter envelopes. Then you get an allowance for getting to/from area and this number can be way off, and never in you ur favor. Then they add an average amount of time (optimistic based on ideal conditions) for every mile you drive on area. The total of these allowances is added up and compared with your actual paid day and the difference is “over allowed”. There’s a report for your route called the “Planned Day Report” made obnoxiously difficult to read as they express all the time allowances in “hours” so the resi stop allowance will be something like “0.0083 hours” instead of 30 secs. A few addons at the end.. I.e. other work codes like training or approved meeting are backed out. If you pull a P-60 you get a little time for each couple and uncouple. What are not in there.... Time spent walking the stop off, time to fill out info notes, time to search in your car, time to open and close gates, time to put on, remove, adjust, fix tire chains, time to answer messages from center, basically anything you have to do every day that’s not in my first two paragraphs above... you get zero allowance for. I’m sure there’s more I’m not thinking of now. I have a stop that has to be in 4x4 during winter but they don’t assign me one so it’s 15 minute round trip walk assuming the package is able to be carried because a handcart is futile. I get about 30 secs allowance, Last winter I kept track of walking time a couple days.. well over an hour with no allowance. (If I can’t walk it off I get s 4x4 at end of night when driver done with it and go back, creating even more “over allowed” since the plan didn’t call for double trip.) Had argument one night with ORS about being told to sheet packages as “weather delay” when it was clearly not a severe weather day, everything plowed, just a normal December day, He stated that “of course” it’s weather,,,he could show me figures that prove we can’t go as fast in December as June. Seriously? If you have those figures why not use them? I frankly have not paid much attention to my own numbers for some time, They are laughable, the formula is not based in reality. If ever questioned I will tell em “better do a ride along with me and show me what I’m doing wrong, I’d love to finish earlier!” This never happens. [/QUOTE]
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