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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 469269" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I agree also with that observation. But I think what get's lost in the Iraq deal is understanding that the Obama plan from everything I've read <strong>does not</strong> and <strong>never has meant</strong> a full and complete withdrawal of <strong>ALL</strong> US troops from Iraq. We will scale down but there will still be maintained a large force over there in a similar way as we have in South Korea, Japan or other global digs as a result of previous US military engagements/conquests.</p><p></p><p>Jimmy Carter in 1980' declared the US intent of protecting this region (Persian Gulf) and it's vital interests (oil) as it pertains not only to the US but the old alliance of the post WW2/cold war era in the form of NATO. Iraq is very much a part of that equation and I see nothing to change that, whether it be democrat or republican. Love him or hate him, a lot of Middle East military policy today is a legacy of Jimmy Carter and his declaration of the Carter Doctrine in the 1980' State of the Union speech.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140705015326/http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/Carter_Doctrine_Global_Oil.html" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20140705015326/http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/Carter_Doctrine_Global_Oil.html</a></p><p></p><p>Back in April of 08' Reuters reported this <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/21/idUSN21470705" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/21/idUSN21470705</a> concerning Gates and Iraq troop levels and then in 2007' via Fox News, again Gates commented regarding longterm US presence in Iraq <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296955,00.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296955,00.html</span></a> and with Gates now working for Obama, I see nothing that would even remotely suggest that <strong>ALL </strong>US troops will come out of Iraq in some 16 or so month timeline.</p><p></p><p>I still believe that the choices Obama has made in picking heads to run his gov't that as some observers have stated, "Obama Term 1 will in appearance and policy look like Bush Term 3" and I'm still in complete agreement with that observation!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 469269, member: 2189"] I agree also with that observation. But I think what get's lost in the Iraq deal is understanding that the Obama plan from everything I've read [B]does not[/B] and [B]never has meant[/B] a full and complete withdrawal of [B]ALL[/B] US troops from Iraq. We will scale down but there will still be maintained a large force over there in a similar way as we have in South Korea, Japan or other global digs as a result of previous US military engagements/conquests. Jimmy Carter in 1980' declared the US intent of protecting this region (Persian Gulf) and it's vital interests (oil) as it pertains not only to the US but the old alliance of the post WW2/cold war era in the form of NATO. Iraq is very much a part of that equation and I see nothing to change that, whether it be democrat or republican. Love him or hate him, a lot of Middle East military policy today is a legacy of Jimmy Carter and his declaration of the Carter Doctrine in the 1980' State of the Union speech. [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20140705015326/http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Oil_watch/Carter_Doctrine_Global_Oil.html[/url] Back in April of 08' Reuters reported this [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/21/idUSN21470705[/url] concerning Gates and Iraq troop levels and then in 2007' via Fox News, again Gates commented regarding longterm US presence in Iraq [URL='http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296955,00.html'][COLOR=red]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296955,00.html[/COLOR][/URL] and with Gates now working for Obama, I see nothing that would even remotely suggest that [B]ALL [/B]US troops will come out of Iraq in some 16 or so month timeline. I still believe that the choices Obama has made in picking heads to run his gov't that as some observers have stated, "Obama Term 1 will in appearance and policy look like Bush Term 3" and I'm still in complete agreement with that observation! [/QUOTE]
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