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I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism
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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 1542630" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>you dont have to profit off of employees to be in business. slavery, feudalism, state socialism, capitalism, and worker controlled jobs all can have profits.</p><p></p><p>they had markets in slavery too. markets are not unique to capitalism. and i wouldnt bow down to markets too much because the market has not produced a rising real wage in america since 1973. on top of that america has a surplus of workers because of automation, globalization, women working, and immigration, so u can't count on the market to deliver increasing standards of living. you can predict that hte market is going to continue what it has done since 1973 which is deliver stagnating or declining standards of living.</p><p></p><p> another example of market failure is vacation time is left to the free market, and it turns out americans take roughly 2 weeks vacation a year, whereas in europe they Plan vacation time by law and the people take 5 to 6 weeks vacation or more.</p><p></p><p>but my point is not about whether we should have a free market, or a planned economy. my point was that in capitalism the people who own things are benefiting far more off their workers, than the workers are by doing labor. hence the straws in the workers milkshakes. we know this is true because of the unbelievable economic (and therefore political) inequality in usa. my solution is to have people in control of their own milkshakes. end exploitation and have more widespread economic democracy.</p><p></p><p>economic democracy is already popping up in the rust belt areas, and its all over the high tech area near san fran. workers come to work bring their dogs, their new borns, they dress casual. quite often these people are republicans. i just read a city near where i live has had economic democracy growing because they had a downturn in their economy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 1542630, member: 56035"] you dont have to profit off of employees to be in business. slavery, feudalism, state socialism, capitalism, and worker controlled jobs all can have profits. they had markets in slavery too. markets are not unique to capitalism. and i wouldnt bow down to markets too much because the market has not produced a rising real wage in america since 1973. on top of that america has a surplus of workers because of automation, globalization, women working, and immigration, so u can't count on the market to deliver increasing standards of living. you can predict that hte market is going to continue what it has done since 1973 which is deliver stagnating or declining standards of living. another example of market failure is vacation time is left to the free market, and it turns out americans take roughly 2 weeks vacation a year, whereas in europe they Plan vacation time by law and the people take 5 to 6 weeks vacation or more. but my point is not about whether we should have a free market, or a planned economy. my point was that in capitalism the people who own things are benefiting far more off their workers, than the workers are by doing labor. hence the straws in the workers milkshakes. we know this is true because of the unbelievable economic (and therefore political) inequality in usa. my solution is to have people in control of their own milkshakes. end exploitation and have more widespread economic democracy. economic democracy is already popping up in the rust belt areas, and its all over the high tech area near san fran. workers come to work bring their dogs, their new borns, they dress casual. quite often these people are republicans. i just read a city near where i live has had economic democracy growing because they had a downturn in their economy. [/QUOTE]
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