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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 2761293" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>more to being a success or failure than just moving out and working for UPS, but when you cant think for yourself and just do what your told all the time, naturally you will have lower expectations for your bar of success.  you can place a large blame on poor social mobility on capitalism and free markets which have delivered lower wages, price speculation in house prices, and high rents.</p></blockquote><p></p>