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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 2908567" data-attributes="member: 56035">you are losing more than you are gaining.&nbsp; primarily the ability the right to say you live in a free society.&nbsp; when you take orders 40 hours a week (or more in the case of UPS), the word freedom is meaningless.&nbsp; capitalism has all the workers taking orders from a few people, just like slavery, feudalism, and state socialism.if you are so sure capitalism is the best system, then you should be an expert on the alternatives like worker cooperatives.capitalism outsourcing the jobs, and automating which puts all the gains in the shareholders, is destroying america, and itself as it relentlessly plunders the environment which sustains the system.we had a union barbeque at my job the other day and i asked the union rep and the other lady how much do they profit off my labor every hour.&nbsp; they couldnt tell me.&nbsp; can you tell me how much UPS profits off of you every hour?&nbsp; if you knew you&#039;d be very pissed off.im writing a letter of reference for an employee who was fired before he became a union man because he is lazy (i call it militant) and they are going to fight it at arbitration.&nbsp; if it was me, every worker would be a militant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 2908567, member: 56035"] you are losing more than you are gaining. primarily the ability the right to say you live in a free society. when you take orders 40 hours a week (or more in the case of UPS), the word freedom is meaningless. capitalism has all the workers taking orders from a few people, just like slavery, feudalism, and state socialism. if you are so sure capitalism is the best system, then you should be an expert on the alternatives like worker cooperatives. capitalism outsourcing the jobs, and automating which puts all the gains in the shareholders, is destroying america, and itself as it relentlessly plunders the environment which sustains the system. we had a union barbeque at my job the other day and i asked the union rep and the other lady how much do they profit off my labor every hour. they couldnt tell me. can you tell me how much UPS profits off of you every hour? if you knew you'd be very pissed off. im writing a letter of reference for an employee who was fired before he became a union man because he is lazy (i call it militant) and they are going to fight it at arbitration. if it was me, every worker would be a militant. [/QUOTE]

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