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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 6113664" data-attributes="member: 56035">[USER=60485]@Thebrownblob[/USER] yea i checked out what nader said about the democrats im not sure if it matches with trump, i know clinton balanced the budget, was tough on crime in a bad way, not sure about immigration.  but i really dont think theyre the same.  id like to see what howard zinn said about them in that time and maybeee oliver stones untold history.  i know it was the beginning of the end for them around then.i think really they may have a few things in common with trump but theres a difference in trump.  hedges says trump admires putins style of governance so i think that could be the difference, although with at least obama it was a slide towards authoritarianism.  idk about biden.  i think with aristotle saying with great wealth inequality comes authoritarianism that takes some of the blame off trump.</blockquote>