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<blockquote data-quote="pretzel_man" data-source="post: 595287" data-attributes="member: 927"><p>Tech,</p><p> </p><p>I've been out of I.E. for about 10 years. I do know they stopped doing studies for a while, but then started it up again. I don't know how much is observed vs. using data. I do know that they are NOT doing automated time studies (obserless). I think its a combination of the two.</p><p> </p><p>There is one thing that needs to be added to the paragraph above that I <strong>bolded</strong>.</p><p> </p><p>You have to add to that that the route has a proper job setup. The time study values assume not only proper methods, but that the route is properly loaded.</p><p> </p><p>From what I've seen, this is the single most important area to address. The average driver is over 20 minutes overallowed in select.</p><p> </p><p>Does that mean that the measurement is wrong or that the job setup is not right. As you know, this has been a long debated topic in I.E. If we adjust the allowance, the issue never appears as somethingn to work on.</p><p> </p><p>In the case of select (which is the single largest overallowed area), it is not the driver's fault nearly all the time. The cause is the preload.</p><p> </p><p>Also, interestingly enough, the overallowed in select got worse after PAS / EDD.</p><p> </p><p>Because of these things, I do not think it follows that <em>"If a particular route is consistently too high on off performance, or consistently too low, there is something wrong with the measurement. (again, assuming the driver is skilled and familiar with the area)" </em></p><p> </p><p>If you add proper job setup to the mix, I would then agree. (I think I'm going to look for my blue card, just for nostalgia.</p><p> </p><p>P-Man</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pretzel_man, post: 595287, member: 927"] Tech, I've been out of I.E. for about 10 years. I do know they stopped doing studies for a while, but then started it up again. I don't know how much is observed vs. using data. I do know that they are NOT doing automated time studies (obserless). I think its a combination of the two. There is one thing that needs to be added to the paragraph above that I [B]bolded[/B]. You have to add to that that the route has a proper job setup. The time study values assume not only proper methods, but that the route is properly loaded. From what I've seen, this is the single most important area to address. The average driver is over 20 minutes overallowed in select. Does that mean that the measurement is wrong or that the job setup is not right. As you know, this has been a long debated topic in I.E. If we adjust the allowance, the issue never appears as somethingn to work on. In the case of select (which is the single largest overallowed area), it is not the driver's fault nearly all the time. The cause is the preload. Also, interestingly enough, the overallowed in select got worse after PAS / EDD. Because of these things, I do not think it follows that [I]"If a particular route is consistently too high on off performance, or consistently too low, there is something wrong with the measurement. (again, assuming the driver is skilled and familiar with the area)" [/I] If you add proper job setup to the mix, I would then agree. (I think I'm going to look for my blue card, just for nostalgia. P-Man [/QUOTE]
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