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<blockquote data-quote="quadro" data-source="post: 737332" data-attributes="member: 12850"><p>The volume will increase by cutting routes. Your productivity will increase by requiring you to be back in by 1600 to 1800. Stuff like that. And you are inferring what I said as you just stated that you expect to work at the same pace you do know. The is no way that an increase in stops per hour will not be part of any negotiation. There absolutely has to be an increase in productivity to pay for whatever increase a union negotiates because there won't automatically be an increase in volume.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to come up with every possible negative just trying to point out that there are definite negatives to a union. People will do what they think is best for themselves but at least if they are reading here they will see the pros and the cons and hopefully make a more informed decision whatever that decision may be.</p><p></p><p>Because they will.</p><p></p><p>Managers really aren't paid that much more, especially for the first few years. However, as in any business, employees that take on more responsibility get paid more. What have you done to prepare yourself for a management job? If nothing, then don't complain that manager get paid more. You could be a manager if you want. We are not even in the same league as pilots so don't compare our pay to theirs. However, having said that, I bet that topped out couriers with some OT make more than many commuter pilots. I doubt they make more than any mainline pilots but I don't know what the starting salary is for a first officer or flight engineer just starting out on a narrowbody. As for unionized workers in Europe, come on, get a grip. At least keep the comparisons within this country.</p><p></p><p>Now, with all that said, I absolutely think that something needs to be done for mid-range employees. The problem is what constitutes mid-range? Most likely what would need to happen is raise the starting pay without raising the top of range so that the corridor is compressed and then adjust the pay for everyone within that corridor based on some formula that keeps the relative distances between pay in tact. My point is simply that it is very expense to do that. I'm not saying FedEx cannot afford it but I am saying that FedEx will require something in return. That will most likely be more stops per hour.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quadro, post: 737332, member: 12850"] The volume will increase by cutting routes. Your productivity will increase by requiring you to be back in by 1600 to 1800. Stuff like that. And you are inferring what I said as you just stated that you expect to work at the same pace you do know. The is no way that an increase in stops per hour will not be part of any negotiation. There absolutely has to be an increase in productivity to pay for whatever increase a union negotiates because there won't automatically be an increase in volume. I'm not trying to come up with every possible negative just trying to point out that there are definite negatives to a union. People will do what they think is best for themselves but at least if they are reading here they will see the pros and the cons and hopefully make a more informed decision whatever that decision may be. Because they will. Managers really aren't paid that much more, especially for the first few years. However, as in any business, employees that take on more responsibility get paid more. What have you done to prepare yourself for a management job? If nothing, then don't complain that manager get paid more. You could be a manager if you want. We are not even in the same league as pilots so don't compare our pay to theirs. However, having said that, I bet that topped out couriers with some OT make more than many commuter pilots. I doubt they make more than any mainline pilots but I don't know what the starting salary is for a first officer or flight engineer just starting out on a narrowbody. As for unionized workers in Europe, come on, get a grip. At least keep the comparisons within this country. Now, with all that said, I absolutely think that something needs to be done for mid-range employees. The problem is what constitutes mid-range? Most likely what would need to happen is raise the starting pay without raising the top of range so that the corridor is compressed and then adjust the pay for everyone within that corridor based on some formula that keeps the relative distances between pay in tact. My point is simply that it is very expense to do that. I'm not saying FedEx cannot afford it but I am saying that FedEx will require something in return. That will most likely be more stops per hour. [/QUOTE]
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