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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 3555551" data-attributes="member: 49065">All pension and health and welfare plans are negotiable, the pension plans are not failures, the people who negotiated them simply dropped the ball.&nbsp; They neither promised too much for the participants or invested them poorly.&nbsp; This Central States fiasco has been going on since the early 90&#039;s, you would think with the Feds getting involved that there would be a solution to it&#039;s underfunding.&nbsp; Again leadership on all levels failed to correct the train wreak, Politics and backbiting is all we are seeing and we wonder why only 30 percent of the rank and file bother to vote on elections and contracts.&nbsp; Folks, we really deserve more than that, things need to change.&nbsp; Most of us who are currently posting on this site probably can say that this will be our last contract, we been betrayed in the past and I am hoping for the best on this one.&nbsp; If it is business as usual of extending the contract past Aug 1st and prolonging it just enough to provide a tempting retro check (buying votes) remember that we have the final say so.&nbsp; Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me adage applies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 3555551, member: 49065"] All pension and health and welfare plans are negotiable, the pension plans are not failures, the people who negotiated them simply dropped the ball. They neither promised too much for the participants or invested them poorly. This Central States fiasco has been going on since the early 90's, you would think with the Feds getting involved that there would be a solution to it's underfunding. Again leadership on all levels failed to correct the train wreak, Politics and backbiting is all we are seeing and we wonder why only 30 percent of the rank and file bother to vote on elections and contracts. Folks, we really deserve more than that, things need to change. Most of us who are currently posting on this site probably can say that this will be our last contract, we been betrayed in the past and I am hoping for the best on this one. If it is business as usual of extending the contract past Aug 1st and prolonging it just enough to provide a tempting retro check (buying votes) remember that we have the final say so. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me adage applies. [/QUOTE]

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