In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by cheryl, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. cheryl

    cheryl I started this. Staff Member

    In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA - Los Angeles Times

    Syrian militias armed by different parts of the U.S. war machine have begun to fight each other on the plains between the besieged city of Aleppo and the Turkish border, highlighting how little control U.S. intelligence officers and military planners have over the groups they have financed and trained in the bitter five-year-old civil war.

    The fighting has intensified over the last two months, as CIA-armed units and Pentagon-armed ones have repeatedly shot at each other while maneuvering through contested territory on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, U.S. officials and rebel leaders have confirmed.
  2. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    NO kidding.

    Same thing in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq.

    We have been saying this for months.

  3. newfie

    newfie Well-Known Member

    wtg Obama
  4. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Our CIA funded Usama Bin Laden in Afghanistan as we not only funded him, but also trained his fighters and armed them for 7 years until the Russians were forced to retreat out of Afghanistan, like we just did.

    Out of this wonderful Reagan program, the TALIBAN was born, and we had to go back to Afghanistan and fight them and they had our weapons and used them to kill our troops.

    WTG Reagan.

  5. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    We shouldn't give our enemies anything, bad policy.
  6. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    The reality is, the USA arms dealers as well as arms dealers around the world need to stop selling weapons to every 2 bit terrorist in the world.

    All we need to do is ask ourselves one question?


    Who is rearming them? Why do they have american weapons and american bullets? Who is selling them weapons of war? Why are we not prosecuting arms dealers, and arms makers whose guns end up in the hands of terrorists?

    Oh wait, its capitalism, my bad.

  7. Sportello

    Sportello Well-Known Member

    <cough> John McCain<cough>
  8. teamer

    teamer Active Member

    Clinton had a chance to kill Osama before 9/11 but pussed out. WTG Bill
  9. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Total winner for 'Missing the Point'.
  10. teamer

    teamer Active Member

    made my point just fine. Sorry you didn't enjoy it.
  11. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Your point was that Clinton missed Osama.

    Yes, he did.

    The larger point is that we keep creating Osama's, and Isis's, and...etc.

    So, if Clinton missed the monster that Reagan helped to create, who's to blame?

    On and on.
  12. teamer

    teamer Active Member

    we went through this already . You didn't like my bashing your boy Billy.
  13. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    I'm as attached to Billy as I am to Reagan, which is not very much.

    Riddle me this - we can blame Reagan and Clinton and Bush I and Bush II and on and on, but at some point, wouldn't it make sense to look at our policies, instead of looking at the people implementing said policies?

    Almost everything we've done in the Middle East has come back to bite us on our own ass.

    Everything has gone south.

    You want to blame Clinton?

    Have at it.
  14. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    sounds like apocalypse now.

    american wars are just as immoral
  15. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    I blame FDR for not supporting the anti-Franco side in the Spanish Civil War.
  16. smapple

    smapple Member

    Pretty sure this was the planned outcome, how else would one push back Iran and Russia without engaging while boosting Israel.
  17. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Lets assume you are correct on this point. For arguments sake, lets say that Clinton could have killed usama and 9/11 wouldnt have happened. Ok, so lets blame Clinton for 9/11 and terrorism leading up to both wars under BUSH.

    Ok, if thats reasonable, then so is the following, using YOUR LOGIC.

    During the Iraq war, our military was busy killing the baathist party members or capturing them. It also was hunting down known terrorists with terror ties around the world.

    It captured one man, and held him in a military prison for almost 2 years. While there, this man lost all his wealth, all his friends, all his property and all his connections.

    Then out of nowhere, BUSH signs a document, after it was brought to him by the military to RELEASE this man unconditionally, and he was RELEASED, free to go wherever he wanted and do whatever he wanted without a penny in his pocket or a bank account to draw from.

    Well, get back to this guy.

    Then, just before this happens, for some bizaare reason, BUSH starts having large sums of shrink wrapped cash flown into the country in military planes and estimates range from 18 billion to 20 billion dollars were sent into the country over a few months. This money was flown out of the USA under the tightest security and landed in military secured airports in Iraq.

    Then, for another "whatever" reason, BUSH then authorizes the RELEASE of this money to private iraqi contractors and GEE, it disappears into the iraqi countryside.

    At least 18 billion dollars vanished. Now, the BUSH administration facing scrutiny over this "LOST" money, started making excuses about why it was lost, and then the military started finding ways to explain it away.. To date, a legitimate excuse has never been concluded and the BUSH administration swept the issue under the rug.

    Some of this money ended up in Lebannon. Gee, right next to Syria.

    Lets get back to this issue in a second as well.

    Now, fast forward a year, and ISIS/ISIL comes to life in Syria. It all of a sudden creates an army out of nothing, it has endless arms supplies, its recruiting fighters from around the region and paying them a salary to fight, it is purchasing large caches of vehicles and having them delivered to Syria, it has the ability to wage war out of nowhere and it starts attacking and taking ground.

    Now, what do these THREE things have in common with BUSH and his decisions????


    1) the man in custody who was a known terrorist was none other than : Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the leader of the Islamic militant organisation known as the Islamic State and located in western Iraq


    2) Oddly, even being broke, he was able to launch the largest terror network in the middle east and supply his army with the latest in technology, including shoulder fired american missiles, which coincedentally shot down that Jordanian F16 and then they burned the pilot.. But where did he get the funding for this adventure? its not like he could go to a bank and take out a small business loan, so where would a man, who BUSH had in custody for almost 2 years get enough money to start a terror network? HMMM... maybe these photos can shed some light on that..



    3) ISIL/ISIS starts up right after BUSH leaves office and begins to wreck havoc on the middle east and by some weird coincedence, they are all ready to fight with trucks, heavy weapons, small weapons, uniforms, arms, munitions and communications equiptment. The logistics involved in this preparation would take more than some broke guy coming out of an American military prison. It would take professionals to organized this, like our own CIA.

    3 years of preparation after his release, and he is ready for war.

    NOW, how was BUSH responsible for this using YOUR LOGIC???

    Its all speculation of course, but the pieces fit together nicely like an ugly puzzle.

    This makes more sense than Clinton having the opportunity to kill Usama.

    Think about it.

  18. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Americans hand in creating ISIS...

    CAMP BUCCA (us military prison) let go several prisoners who ended up being top leaders in ISIS...

    But of course, if you are a FOX news junkie, you would say that Al bagdadi was released in 2009 by OBAMA, cause thats what Judge Jeanine Pirro said on television after she heard John McCain say it. But, like we already know, FOX is notorious for putting out false information, like the release of Bagdadi.

    We continue to make our own enemies, we continue to keep this country in a perpetual state of conflict when you have republicans looking to start wars.

    Now we all pay for it.