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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 1270491" data-attributes="member: 4816">Upstate,&nbsp;I think that is a very good question.&nbsp;I am a firm believer that the Government should not be involved in the free market.&nbsp;Because the government is making mandates on business --they will react--does not make it right.&nbsp;Provide for our defense--let the private sector work out the rest. Over simplifying.&nbsp;Now we will have a huge response on Healthcare.&nbsp; We did not need the Government to put in the disaster of Obamacare.&nbsp;Providing cross border competition --limits on Lawsuits and modest tort reform --as well as a medical safety net --such as Medicaid for the people --for whatever reason --cannot provide for themselves is where we should be.&nbsp;Today Upstate --from what I understand about your posts ---you are preparing and saving and planning your retirement.&nbsp;Should you --be responsible for the UPS worker who does not save --spends more than he should --thinks the teamsters will take care of him --while he does not plan or take any action to protect himself ???&nbsp;I respect you for your position on this --and feel it is a shame --as the government expands the safety net into a hammock --in your planned retirement --the government will tax your pension and social security at higher levels-for those that do not prepare.&nbsp;As you go to work tomorrow --early morning in the ice and snow --how many LAZY people do you have to support --that will get free healthcare --housing--food and energy while staying in bed??&nbsp;No one ever wants to discuss the lazy ---the number is growing&nbsp; -- the left believes they do not exist.Just suggest -able bodied-work for food stamps --walmart --mcdonalds ---wherever --there is an uproar of protest.&nbsp;My point on Obamacare ---It is incenting Employers to create part time jobs --growing the number of takers not earners !! Placing people in dead end jobs forever --the new &quot;Plantation&quot;&nbsp; Basic health, housing and food --same as a slave or prisoner --the only thing required is your vote.&nbsp;If they keep the jobs full time as they probably want to --the cost of healthcare will put them out of Business.&nbsp;I believe --just me and you --never mind all the politicians --could do a lot better than the road we are now on !!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 1270491, member: 4816"] Upstate, I think that is a very good question. I am a firm believer that the Government should not be involved in the free market. Because the government is making mandates on business --they will react--does not make it right. Provide for our defense--let the private sector work out the rest. Over simplifying. Now we will have a huge response on Healthcare. We did not need the Government to put in the disaster of Obamacare. Providing cross border competition --limits on Lawsuits and modest tort reform --as well as a medical safety net --such as Medicaid for the people --for whatever reason --cannot provide for themselves is where we should be. Today Upstate --from what I understand about your posts ---you are preparing and saving and planning your retirement. Should you --be responsible for the UPS worker who does not save --spends more than he should --thinks the teamsters will take care of him --while he does not plan or take any action to protect himself ??? I respect you for your position on this --and feel it is a shame --as the government expands the safety net into a hammock --in your planned retirement --the government will tax your pension and social security at higher levels-for those that do not prepare. As you go to work tomorrow --early morning in the ice and snow --how many LAZY people do you have to support --that will get free healthcare --housing--food and energy while staying in bed?? No one ever wants to discuss the lazy ---the number is growing -- the left believes they do not exist. Just suggest -able bodied-work for food stamps --walmart --mcdonalds ---wherever --there is an uproar of protest. My point on Obamacare ---It is incenting Employers to create part time jobs --growing the number of takers not earners !! Placing people in dead end jobs forever --the new "Plantation" Basic health, housing and food --same as a slave or prisoner --the only thing required is your vote. If they keep the jobs full time as they probably want to --the cost of healthcare will put them out of Business. I believe --just me and you --never mind all the politicians --could do a lot better than the road we are now on !! [/QUOTE]

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