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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1571655" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>OLDGRAY: From your own link comes the INTENTION of this law...</p><p></p><p>reason number 2 on your link:</p><p></p><p><strong>2) This law is not a get out of jail free card for “discriminators.” If someone discriminates against a gay person, the gay person can still take the discriminator to court and win. Now, however, <span style="font-size: 22px">the person accused of discrimination </span></strong><a href="http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/29/indianas-religious-anti-gay-law-that-wasnt/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">can invoke the state’s RFRA law</span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> as a legal weapon to defend themself</span>. That weapon could win or lose depending on the validity of their case and the ideological leanings of their judge.</strong></p><p></p><p>This clearly refutes any claim that the law will not encourage discrimination. </p><p></p><p>The law does not SPECIFICALLY target gays and lesbians as they have said, but they dont have to.</p><p></p><p>Lets put it this way,</p><p></p><p>Lets say we pass a state law that says that motorists cannot be sued for damages or injuries if they got into a car crash on the highway. There is NO MENTION of causing accidents themselves in the law. </p><p></p><p>With a legal provision that eliminates liabilities from the crash, it can be safely assumed that motorists would then begin to drive MORE UNSAFE knowing they wouldnt be held responsible for accidents.</p><p></p><p>People all behave one way knowing the law prevents them from doing otherwise, so just like the Indiana law, the republicans have given a GIFT to those Christians who will discriminate by allowing them to claim a religious claim for doing so.</p><p></p><p>Then, if they are sued, all they have to do is invoke this law and take it to the conservative courts in Indiana where they will prevail hands down.</p><p></p><p>From your link, this is the dumbest explanation of them ALL..</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">4. This law already exists in different forms at the federal level and in </span></strong><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/27/19-states-that-have-religious-freedom-laws-like-indianas-that-no-one-is-boycotting/" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">19 states across the country</span></strong></a><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">. Those laws passed without nearly the same hullabaloo.</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? "this law already exists in different forms"... How about the only similiarity is the title of the law? The language contained in them are completely different and only apply to the government and NOT PRIVATE PERSONS OR PRIVATE BUSINESSES.</p><p></p><p>That is a LARGE difference.</p><p></p><p>This bill is clearly an attempt to discriminate through a backdoor avenue, and they dont have to specifically target gays and lesbians or people of other faiths. The law is ambiguous enough to allow people to do it with just a *wink*</p><p></p><p>"this isnt a law to promote discrimination, *wink* " ~mike pence</p><p></p><p>From your link:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">7 Indiana does not have a law explicitly prohibiting discrimination against gay people. Many other states do.</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Gee, what a shock. No laws to prevent discrimination and then a law back up discrimination in the courts.</p><p></p><p>Cmon OLDGRAY, you couldnt possibly believe this law is ok or reasonable.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1571655, member: 17969"] OLDGRAY: From your own link comes the INTENTION of this law... reason number 2 on your link: [B]2) This law is not a get out of jail free card for “discriminators.” If someone discriminates against a gay person, the gay person can still take the discriminator to court and win. Now, however, [SIZE=6]the person accused of discrimination [/SIZE][/B][URL='http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/29/indianas-religious-anti-gay-law-that-wasnt/'][B][SIZE=6]can invoke the state’s RFRA law[/SIZE][/B][/URL][B][SIZE=6] as a legal weapon to defend themself[/SIZE]. That weapon could win or lose depending on the validity of their case and the ideological leanings of their judge.[/B] This clearly refutes any claim that the law will not encourage discrimination. The law does not SPECIFICALLY target gays and lesbians as they have said, but they dont have to. Lets put it this way, Lets say we pass a state law that says that motorists cannot be sued for damages or injuries if they got into a car crash on the highway. There is NO MENTION of causing accidents themselves in the law. With a legal provision that eliminates liabilities from the crash, it can be safely assumed that motorists would then begin to drive MORE UNSAFE knowing they wouldnt be held responsible for accidents. People all behave one way knowing the law prevents them from doing otherwise, so just like the Indiana law, the republicans have given a GIFT to those Christians who will discriminate by allowing them to claim a religious claim for doing so. Then, if they are sued, all they have to do is invoke this law and take it to the conservative courts in Indiana where they will prevail hands down. From your link, this is the dumbest explanation of them ALL.. [B][SIZE=4]4. This law already exists in different forms at the federal level and in [/SIZE][/B][URL='http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/03/27/19-states-that-have-religious-freedom-laws-like-indianas-that-no-one-is-boycotting/'][B][SIZE=4]19 states across the country[/SIZE][/B][/URL][B][SIZE=4]. Those laws passed without nearly the same hullabaloo.[/SIZE][/B] Really? "this law already exists in different forms"... How about the only similiarity is the title of the law? The language contained in them are completely different and only apply to the government and NOT PRIVATE PERSONS OR PRIVATE BUSINESSES. That is a LARGE difference. This bill is clearly an attempt to discriminate through a backdoor avenue, and they dont have to specifically target gays and lesbians or people of other faiths. The law is ambiguous enough to allow people to do it with just a *wink* "this isnt a law to promote discrimination, *wink* " ~mike pence From your link: [B][SIZE=5]7 Indiana does not have a law explicitly prohibiting discrimination against gay people. Many other states do.[/SIZE][/B] Gee, what a shock. No laws to prevent discrimination and then a law back up discrimination in the courts. Cmon OLDGRAY, you couldnt possibly believe this law is ok or reasonable. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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