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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 814675" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>In one sense, your "<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />s" comment has merit but ironically if you actually studied the whole thing out, there is some measure where the "<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />" argument has some level of truth. A corp. is a fiction created by the state that grants this new creature certain privileges, one being some measure of limited liability across a spectrum and most offend certain tax benefits. Take 2 men who start a plumbing supply business where one incorporates and the other does not. One will enjoy certain liability privileges, certain preferred tax status and in some cases be afforded more favorable status to obtaining working capital, investment capital and other privileged benefits. In a true free market, would not all enterprises be treated equal with none getting such favoritism over another?</p><p> </p><p>What about the state privilege of it's protective capacity in using it's monopoly of force. When a corp. entity faces a new competitve force in the marketplace, one who comes in not via a privileged mode, the state will enter and thus protect the privileged corp. entity and in almost all cases, that cost of said action is passed onto the taxpayer as a whole. A new competitor might also force prevailing price structures down to benefit consumers so between tax and price supports, the consumer eg working class if you like pays twice for the corp. privileged thanks to state interventionism in the market. Some of those ill effects can be seen discussed <a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/government-can%e2%80%99t-regulate-just-one-side-of-the-market/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">here</span></a>. The corp. enjoys a free ride from a security force in the marketplace that others are forced to pay for and even regulation acts as a protective front by raising the costs of market entry points. Localist, small market players are force out so that the large nationals can then dominate because of scale advantage created again by the state as a corp. benefit. Those "<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />s" stomp their feet and close a blind eye to this one while railing against Walmart and defending Mom and Pop but keep their hands in their pockets so mom and pop won't see their blood on "<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />" hands.</p><p> </p><p>"<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />s" may have their own faults when it comes to understanding the nature of the State, privilege and markets but before you jump and defend something as being pure as the driven snow, you beter take the time and understand at it's core just what it really is you are defending!</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=950" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">It's all State Capitalism</span></a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1193" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">The Distortions Wrought by the Corporatist State</span></a></p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.fff.org/comment/com1003b.asp" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Capitalism verses The Free Market</span></a></p><p> </p><p>Maybe what you are defending thinking free market is in fact <a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">something else with monsterous consequences.</span></a></p><p> </p><p>Might that be another reason no matter who takes power that things always only get worse and never get better regardless of the rhetoric during campaigns we are told?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 814675, member: 2189"] In one sense, your ":censored:s" comment has merit but ironically if you actually studied the whole thing out, there is some measure where the ":censored:" argument has some level of truth. A corp. is a fiction created by the state that grants this new creature certain privileges, one being some measure of limited liability across a spectrum and most offend certain tax benefits. Take 2 men who start a plumbing supply business where one incorporates and the other does not. One will enjoy certain liability privileges, certain preferred tax status and in some cases be afforded more favorable status to obtaining working capital, investment capital and other privileged benefits. In a true free market, would not all enterprises be treated equal with none getting such favoritism over another? What about the state privilege of it's protective capacity in using it's monopoly of force. When a corp. entity faces a new competitve force in the marketplace, one who comes in not via a privileged mode, the state will enter and thus protect the privileged corp. entity and in almost all cases, that cost of said action is passed onto the taxpayer as a whole. A new competitor might also force prevailing price structures down to benefit consumers so between tax and price supports, the consumer eg working class if you like pays twice for the corp. privileged thanks to state interventionism in the market. Some of those ill effects can be seen discussed [URL="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/headline/government-can%e2%80%99t-regulate-just-one-side-of-the-market/"][COLOR=red]here[/COLOR][/URL]. The corp. enjoys a free ride from a security force in the marketplace that others are forced to pay for and even regulation acts as a protective front by raising the costs of market entry points. Localist, small market players are force out so that the large nationals can then dominate because of scale advantage created again by the state as a corp. benefit. Those ":censored:s" stomp their feet and close a blind eye to this one while railing against Walmart and defending Mom and Pop but keep their hands in their pockets so mom and pop won't see their blood on ":censored:" hands. ":censored:s" may have their own faults when it comes to understanding the nature of the State, privilege and markets but before you jump and defend something as being pure as the driven snow, you beter take the time and understand at it's core just what it really is you are defending! [URL="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=950"][COLOR=red]It's all State Capitalism[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=1193"][COLOR=red]The Distortions Wrought by the Corporatist State[/COLOR][/URL] [URL="http://www.fff.org/comment/com1003b.asp"][COLOR=red]Capitalism verses The Free Market[/COLOR][/URL] Maybe what you are defending thinking free market is in fact [URL="http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html"][COLOR=red]something else with monsterous consequences.[/COLOR][/URL] Might that be another reason no matter who takes power that things always only get worse and never get better regardless of the rhetoric during campaigns we are told? [/QUOTE]
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