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Is it really true that once you quit UPS you can't go back?
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<blockquote data-quote="PPH_over_9000" data-source="post: 5106602" data-attributes="member: 79761"><p>idk man, I don't think Great Britain was at the forefront of Lincoln's mind with his Proclamation. GB stayed back because of a lack of public support for them to join the conflict and, while that tide started turning after the EP, I don't think that was the goal. The causality there was so indirect that it's hard not to view it as a happy coincidence for the USA. Besides, public support for interfering with US sovereignty had been dwindling for quite a while by that point-- at best, this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.</p><p></p><p>BUT</p><p></p><p>like I said last night, it was more of a game of chess than a moral battle (most conflicts are), and what do we do in chess? We think several moves ahead and plan for multiple outcomes. That leaves the very distinct possibility that you're 100% right, I just doubt the major motivation. That's why I keep saying "I think" instead of "I know," though!</p><p></p><p>One thing for sure, though, I don't support slavery, I don't daydream about the Confederate Flag, and I'm damn happy our country didn't fall apart back then. As far as my comment about lashes and food-- it was so ludicrous that I didn't expect anybody to take it to heart. I think you may've just gotten so used to the people around you being ignorant on certain topics that you've come to expect it, and I've come to treat the internet as a place not to be taken very seriously at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PPH_over_9000, post: 5106602, member: 79761"] idk man, I don't think Great Britain was at the forefront of Lincoln's mind with his Proclamation. GB stayed back because of a lack of public support for them to join the conflict and, while that tide started turning after the EP, I don't think that was the goal. The causality there was so indirect that it's hard not to view it as a happy coincidence for the USA. Besides, public support for interfering with US sovereignty had been dwindling for quite a while by that point-- at best, this was just the straw that broke the camel's back. BUT like I said last night, it was more of a game of chess than a moral battle (most conflicts are), and what do we do in chess? We think several moves ahead and plan for multiple outcomes. That leaves the very distinct possibility that you're 100% right, I just doubt the major motivation. That's why I keep saying "I think" instead of "I know," though! One thing for sure, though, I don't support slavery, I don't daydream about the Confederate Flag, and I'm damn happy our country didn't fall apart back then. As far as my comment about lashes and food-- it was so ludicrous that I didn't expect anybody to take it to heart. I think you may've just gotten so used to the people around you being ignorant on certain topics that you've come to expect it, and I've come to treat the internet as a place not to be taken very seriously at all. [/QUOTE]
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