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Is there any contract language regarding reviewing personell files?
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<blockquote data-quote="pemanager" data-source="post: 776661" data-attributes="member: 5027"><p>PEPro,</p><p></p><p>I am not sure I understand your question regarding a 3rd party auditor. If you are asking me how I would answer the question, I would review our CBT, the test and the hands on, Form C, verification. Been there and done that with regulatory bodies. </p><p></p><p>I guess it all boils down to the training in your case. Because we utilize a CBT, I do not understand how a supervisor can just gather everyone in a room and tell them, directly, don't worry about the subject matter just skip to the test and then don't worry about reading the questions, I will just give you the answers. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it can happen, but the format is just not conducive to it. So I am not sure how to take your statement that they just give you the answers. If they have everyone in a room and review lock out and emphasize, amongst other things, you need to know the 5 steps to lockout, etc. and tell you what they are, and then have you proceed to the CBT that is training in my mind. They are presenting information and emphasizing key points. You still have to pass the test and still have to physically demonstrate, annually, your understanding of the process separate from the test. I guess it boils down to what is actually taking place, which I can not reasonably infer from your description with any degree of certainty. What did the CHSP manager have to say?</p><p></p><p>Also, It's been awhile since I've been in a district and it may have changed, but the Safety manager, distinct from the CHSP manager, might be the person to talk to. The CHSP managers are geared toward CHSP processes and injury analysis and reduction. The Safety manager was more geared towards ensuring regulatory compliance. </p><p> </p><p>I also feel the need to add that I have been in many Regions and Districts and worked with many quality mechanics and I feel there is a very solid understanding of lockout in what is, usually, a very senior and professional group. </p><p></p><p>If you would like to continue via PM that is cool too.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, I wish I could remember the standard disclaimer but anything mentioned in my posts is my opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of UPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemanager, post: 776661, member: 5027"] PEPro, I am not sure I understand your question regarding a 3rd party auditor. If you are asking me how I would answer the question, I would review our CBT, the test and the hands on, Form C, verification. Been there and done that with regulatory bodies. I guess it all boils down to the training in your case. Because we utilize a CBT, I do not understand how a supervisor can just gather everyone in a room and tell them, directly, don't worry about the subject matter just skip to the test and then don't worry about reading the questions, I will just give you the answers. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it can happen, but the format is just not conducive to it. So I am not sure how to take your statement that they just give you the answers. If they have everyone in a room and review lock out and emphasize, amongst other things, you need to know the 5 steps to lockout, etc. and tell you what they are, and then have you proceed to the CBT that is training in my mind. They are presenting information and emphasizing key points. You still have to pass the test and still have to physically demonstrate, annually, your understanding of the process separate from the test. I guess it boils down to what is actually taking place, which I can not reasonably infer from your description with any degree of certainty. What did the CHSP manager have to say? Also, It's been awhile since I've been in a district and it may have changed, but the Safety manager, distinct from the CHSP manager, might be the person to talk to. The CHSP managers are geared toward CHSP processes and injury analysis and reduction. The Safety manager was more geared towards ensuring regulatory compliance. I also feel the need to add that I have been in many Regions and Districts and worked with many quality mechanics and I feel there is a very solid understanding of lockout in what is, usually, a very senior and professional group. If you would like to continue via PM that is cool too. Lastly, I wish I could remember the standard disclaimer but anything mentioned in my posts is my opinion and do not necessarily reflect the views of UPS. [/QUOTE]
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