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Is there anybody at the wheel at UPS that can pay attention to the real world?
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 543474" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>I'll probably hate myself in the morning, but . . .</p><p> </p><p>Unions always want wages raised. UPS can pay higher wages than the minimums anytime. Just as a scholarship winner who must maintain a minimum "C" average can get "A"s and "B"s without fear of loosing his scholarship. Unilateral actions that constitute an Unfair Labor Practice would be <u>harmful</u> actions, not beneficial actions. Besides, the NLRB would not receive a ULP complaint unless the Teamsters filed it. Why would the Teamsters complain about getting for free, something they asked for in negotiations and did not get?</p><p></p><p>Canceling a raise, or threatening to do so, to influence a contract vote is a major Unfair Labor Practice.</p><p></p><p>Sounds like another Unfair Labor Practice violation of the National Labor Relations Act.</p><p></p><p>I think you just made that up. Unions are against <u>harmful</u> runarounds, not free gifts like higher wages, holiday turkeys, Years of Service awards, Circle of Honor banquets and gifts, tuition reinbursements, Founder's Day gifts, etc.</p><p></p><p>The Teamsters would love to see us get mid-contract raises. Besides, our dues goes up automatically each time we get a raise. Are you saying the Teamsters would turn down free money?</p><p></p><p>Bribery is illegal. Using raises to influence a contract approval vote is an ULP. </p><p></p><p>Their labor, and their negotiating counter-proposals (which may involve tradeoffs and sometimes concessions.)</p><p></p><p>The Teamsters Union operates in the USA, Canada, and Puerto Rico. If UPS is finished expanding in North America and now expands throught the rest of the world, obviously the portion of Teamster employees to total worldwide employees will be reduced.</p><p></p><p>No. They are not a NLRB certified union and they are not your employees.</p><p>The Reverend Jim Jones. Jonestown,Guyana. Gulp. Gulp. Gulp. Biggest mass-suicide/murder. Delusional True Believers. Over 900 dead.</p><p> </p><p>Just curious. How would you determine the market value of the labor the worker provides without collective bargaining? We don't live in a lassez faire capitalist economy with a free market. There is no Market Clearing Wage." We live in a semi-socialist economy. </p><p></p><p>Why should shareholders vote on the wages, benefits, and working conditions of the bargaining unit? Shareholders don't vote on the wages, benefits, and working conditions of all the managers, supervisors, administrative, and technical employees.</p><p></p><p>All paychecks are paid by our shipping customers through the monies they pay to ship packages. Management earns its share of that revenue; Labor earns its share. Each receives paychecks and benefits from the portion of revenues it earned.</p><p> </p><p>PoorCarlos, was that you who use to rant on TeamsterNet a while back?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 543474, member: 18044"] I'll probably hate myself in the morning, but . . . Unions always want wages raised. UPS can pay higher wages than the minimums anytime. Just as a scholarship winner who must maintain a minimum "C" average can get "A"s and "B"s without fear of loosing his scholarship. Unilateral actions that constitute an Unfair Labor Practice would be [U]harmful[/U] actions, not beneficial actions. Besides, the NLRB would not receive a ULP complaint unless the Teamsters filed it. Why would the Teamsters complain about getting for free, something they asked for in negotiations and did not get? Canceling a raise, or threatening to do so, to influence a contract vote is a major Unfair Labor Practice. Sounds like another Unfair Labor Practice violation of the National Labor Relations Act. I think you just made that up. Unions are against [U]harmful[/U] runarounds, not free gifts like higher wages, holiday turkeys, Years of Service awards, Circle of Honor banquets and gifts, tuition reinbursements, Founder's Day gifts, etc. The Teamsters would love to see us get mid-contract raises. Besides, our dues goes up automatically each time we get a raise. Are you saying the Teamsters would turn down free money? Bribery is illegal. Using raises to influence a contract approval vote is an ULP. Their labor, and their negotiating counter-proposals (which may involve tradeoffs and sometimes concessions.) The Teamsters Union operates in the USA, Canada, and Puerto Rico. If UPS is finished expanding in North America and now expands throught the rest of the world, obviously the portion of Teamster employees to total worldwide employees will be reduced. No. They are not a NLRB certified union and they are not your employees. The Reverend Jim Jones. Jonestown,Guyana. Gulp. Gulp. Gulp. Biggest mass-suicide/murder. Delusional True Believers. Over 900 dead. Just curious. How would you determine the market value of the labor the worker provides without collective bargaining? We don't live in a lassez faire capitalist economy with a free market. There is no Market Clearing Wage." We live in a semi-socialist economy. Why should shareholders vote on the wages, benefits, and working conditions of the bargaining unit? Shareholders don't vote on the wages, benefits, and working conditions of all the managers, supervisors, administrative, and technical employees. All paychecks are paid by our shipping customers through the monies they pay to ship packages. Management earns its share of that revenue; Labor earns its share. Each receives paychecks and benefits from the portion of revenues it earned. PoorCarlos, was that you who use to rant on TeamsterNet a while back? [/QUOTE]
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