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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 544778" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>Jimmy;</p><p> </p><p>Heh, what's the fun in participating in sites that are all sweetness and light? Beyond that, I think I probably added quite a bit to those sites which I've participated in...and that a lapse in my participation on them is not generally considered a positive. After all, lightening needs [well, maybe not "needs", but you get the picture!] a lightening rod to ground itself on.</p><p> </p><p>Actually, have you considered that I may be functioning as a form of drill sergeant, preparing Teamsters in a rather gentle way for the much more fierce blasts they may encounter outside in a not-so-sheltered environment? After all, I'm far from the brightest guy on earth; if Teamsters can't field the questions I lob at them, how can they hope to do well against those on the outside who REALLY have something on the ball?</p><p> </p><p>As for your remarks about my investment, I seriously doubt that there are many posters here who's association with UPS pre-dates my investment (or my working as an hourly, or my being in management, or my being a retiree) in/at UPS. That being the case, wouldn't it be better, perhaps, if you turned the question around, and asked yourself why you are working for a company [which, as you are surely aware, is composed of its investors] that apparently you don't believe in? </p><p> </p><p>By that I mean that I assumed that the "Brown" in "Brown Cafe" refers to UPS...and I think a very good case could be made that "UPS" consists of those that own it, while the hired help is - no more, and certainly no less - simply that; the hired help. Given that, why should I presume to put the cart before the horse?</p><p> </p><p>All sort of "tongue in cheek", of course. But I think you'll find there's at least an ELEMENT of truth in it.</p><p> </p><p>Lastly, while it may be presumptuous, and while it may not have been "all of a sudden", or a complete "ditching", I do think that I've already had an influence on your representation. More than once, I've seen the IBT react directly to some of the concerns I've expressed, and I've also seen a negotiating attitude change (on both sides) apparently because of the influence of myself in concert with other advocates. Anyway, "no", I don't expect a "sudden ditch", I do, however, expect my influence to engender a more-informed Teamster membership that is less likely to accept uncritically everything that is passed-down to them from the International.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 544778, member: 16651"] Jimmy; Heh, what's the fun in participating in sites that are all sweetness and light? Beyond that, I think I probably added quite a bit to those sites which I've participated in...and that a lapse in my participation on them is not generally considered a positive. After all, lightening needs [well, maybe not "needs", but you get the picture!] a lightening rod to ground itself on. Actually, have you considered that I may be functioning as a form of drill sergeant, preparing Teamsters in a rather gentle way for the much more fierce blasts they may encounter outside in a not-so-sheltered environment? After all, I'm far from the brightest guy on earth; if Teamsters can't field the questions I lob at them, how can they hope to do well against those on the outside who REALLY have something on the ball? As for your remarks about my investment, I seriously doubt that there are many posters here who's association with UPS pre-dates my investment (or my working as an hourly, or my being in management, or my being a retiree) in/at UPS. That being the case, wouldn't it be better, perhaps, if you turned the question around, and asked yourself why you are working for a company [which, as you are surely aware, is composed of its investors] that apparently you don't believe in? By that I mean that I assumed that the "Brown" in "Brown Cafe" refers to UPS...and I think a very good case could be made that "UPS" consists of those that own it, while the hired help is - no more, and certainly no less - simply that; the hired help. Given that, why should I presume to put the cart before the horse? All sort of "tongue in cheek", of course. But I think you'll find there's at least an ELEMENT of truth in it. Lastly, while it may be presumptuous, and while it may not have been "all of a sudden", or a complete "ditching", I do think that I've already had an influence on your representation. More than once, I've seen the IBT react directly to some of the concerns I've expressed, and I've also seen a negotiating attitude change (on both sides) apparently because of the influence of myself in concert with other advocates. Anyway, "no", I don't expect a "sudden ditch", I do, however, expect my influence to engender a more-informed Teamster membership that is less likely to accept uncritically everything that is passed-down to them from the International. [/QUOTE]
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