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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 159169" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p>Again with the love it or leave it solution. I think most people <em>want</em> to work for UPS, but acknowledge there are some very serious flaws in what impacts our day to day experience. Are we not supposed to want to establish a better workplace atmosphere? Should we just throw our hands in the air and walk out because the latest crap-hole manager just arrived at our center with the attitude that all drivers are lazy drunks, pervs, and thieves? </p><p></p><p>What's wrong with management actually trying to create a positive work environment? My brother works at Toyota, non-union. So far, the majority of the workers don't see the need for union representation. Why? Because management goes to great lengths to make sure the employees are fairly delt with. The expectations are well within the realm of what's humanly possible. </p><p></p><p>Everytime I hit a stoplight or train delay, it counts against me. When the preload puts a package in the wrong spot and I have to look for it, counts against me. We have to tape our own packages because they don't allow preload the time to do it anymore... counts against me. We're supposed to follow EDD, but sometimes add/splits show up after the driver has already downloaded EDD... backtracking to deliver what wasn't in the board counts against me. Management has already told me it would be impossible to run scratch... yet they won't adjust it so that it is possible. Again, counts against me.</p><p></p><p>Why not leave? I have a lot of time invested here and the hope that eventually things improve. So far tho, my experience with the majority of management (the ones I have day to day dealings with) aren't in a position to stand up and say what's right. I'm sure they'd love the numbers to actually be something that is possible to achieve.</p><p></p><p>But your solution is much easier. Love it or leave it. Let's not stop with UPS tho. Tired of being discriminated against? Go back to the country where you came from. Your teenage kids being difficult? Give them up for adoption. Don't like the current president or the war in Iraq? Move to France and stop your democratic bew-hewing. Tired of facing the responsibilities of being a superpower? Flee to Canada. </p><p></p><p>I asked it in another thread... what's wrong with trying to fix things? Fixing them begins with acknowledging they exist... something managment is a bit reluctant to do. Congrats on your retirement, I hope it's everything you dreamt it would be. I still have a ways to go, would love for a few things to change between now and then. That doesn't mean I hate the company.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 159169, member: 8423"] Again with the love it or leave it solution. I think most people [I]want[/I] to work for UPS, but acknowledge there are some very serious flaws in what impacts our day to day experience. Are we not supposed to want to establish a better workplace atmosphere? Should we just throw our hands in the air and walk out because the latest crap-hole manager just arrived at our center with the attitude that all drivers are lazy drunks, pervs, and thieves? What's wrong with management actually trying to create a positive work environment? My brother works at Toyota, non-union. So far, the majority of the workers don't see the need for union representation. Why? Because management goes to great lengths to make sure the employees are fairly delt with. The expectations are well within the realm of what's humanly possible. Everytime I hit a stoplight or train delay, it counts against me. When the preload puts a package in the wrong spot and I have to look for it, counts against me. We have to tape our own packages because they don't allow preload the time to do it anymore... counts against me. We're supposed to follow EDD, but sometimes add/splits show up after the driver has already downloaded EDD... backtracking to deliver what wasn't in the board counts against me. Management has already told me it would be impossible to run scratch... yet they won't adjust it so that it is possible. Again, counts against me. Why not leave? I have a lot of time invested here and the hope that eventually things improve. So far tho, my experience with the majority of management (the ones I have day to day dealings with) aren't in a position to stand up and say what's right. I'm sure they'd love the numbers to actually be something that is possible to achieve. But your solution is much easier. Love it or leave it. Let's not stop with UPS tho. Tired of being discriminated against? Go back to the country where you came from. Your teenage kids being difficult? Give them up for adoption. Don't like the current president or the war in Iraq? Move to France and stop your democratic bew-hewing. Tired of facing the responsibilities of being a superpower? Flee to Canada. I asked it in another thread... what's wrong with trying to fix things? Fixing them begins with acknowledging they exist... something managment is a bit reluctant to do. Congrats on your retirement, I hope it's everything you dreamt it would be. I still have a ways to go, would love for a few things to change between now and then. That doesn't mean I hate the company. [/QUOTE]
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