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<blockquote data-quote="kingOFchester" data-source="post: 1183623" data-attributes="member: 11246"><p>I have come to the conclusion, that this whole HC is just one big fat nasty tasting pile poop. You have to look at the entire picture. look at the main players, where they stand and what they all have to gain. Here is my final conclusion on the matter. Actually my final post on it as well. Just tired of all the BS and game being played. Its all about money and politics.</p><p></p><p>First you have to look at the motives for all players:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Players:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">UPS </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">IBT </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Democratic administration </li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Motive:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dollars for UPS </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Dollars for IBT </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Redistribution of wealth for the Democratic administration. </li> </ul> </li> </ul><p></p><p>Once the motive is recognized, you have a goal:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">UPS:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Save money by eliminating healthcare costs. Put the burden on anyone other then UPS. </li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">IBT:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Take over the healthcare expense that they know they will not be able to sustain. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get more Union dues. </li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Democratic administration<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Take over all healthcare and institute a single payer healthcare. </li> </ul> </li> </ul><p></p><p>Now you have the players, the motive and the goal you have to have a plan to reach the ultimate goals:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">UPS/IBT: Operation Shock, Rally and pressure: </li> </ul><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><br /> [*=2]UPS sends letters to retires to show they mean business in regards to healthcare. <br /> [*=2]Start negotiations with a small window <br /> [*=2]Announce that UPS wants us to pay $$$$$ <br /> [*=2]have Hall/Hoffa put on the "rallies" <br /> [*=2]Present the Brothers with Teamcare <br /> [*=2]Leave little time from finishing negotiations and the end of the contract so that hopefully the new TA gets passed. </li> </ol><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">IBT<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get healthcare expense out of UPS and the union. Get hourly rate higher by saving UPS the HC $'s </li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Democratic administration:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get a healthcare reform passed that isn't as bad as a total single payer system. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get the Unions on board.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get the Unions in control of healthcare </li> </ul> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get Unions to send letter asking for help in regards to healthcare. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Implement the single payer healthcare you wanted from the get go. </li> </ul> </li> </ul><p></p><p>Really not good at descriptions, but in a nut shell this is all a plan. </p><p>UPS wins, because they are washed clean of HC. More $$</p><p>IBT wins because eventually we will all be in a single payer HC, more hourly rate= more union dues.</p><p>Democratic administration is one step closer to having one class.</p><p></p><p>The negotiations were a sham. The rallies were a sham. The letter to Reid and Pelosi is a scam to get the single payer healthcare that they wanted from the beginning. Its all a plan. Not necessarily directly tied to each other, but in the end it is all just smoke and mirrors. </p><p></p><p><strong>Mark my words. In the end, we will all be in a single payer healthcare program. We will be making more money an hour, and the IBT and Democrats will still be holding hands.</strong></p><p> Thats all I got. Fire away.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kingOFchester, post: 1183623, member: 11246"] I have come to the conclusion, that this whole HC is just one big fat nasty tasting pile poop. You have to look at the entire picture. look at the main players, where they stand and what they all have to gain. Here is my final conclusion on the matter. Actually my final post on it as well. Just tired of all the BS and game being played. Its all about money and politics. First you have to look at the motives for all players: [LIST] [*]The Players: [LIST] [*]UPS [*]IBT [*]Democratic administration [/LIST] [*]Motive: [LIST] [*]Dollars for UPS [*]Dollars for IBT [*]Redistribution of wealth for the Democratic administration. [/LIST] [/LIST] Once the motive is recognized, you have a goal: [LIST] [*]UPS: [LIST] [*]Save money by eliminating healthcare costs. Put the burden on anyone other then UPS. [/LIST] [*]IBT: [LIST] [*]Take over the healthcare expense that they know they will not be able to sustain. [*]Get more Union dues. [/LIST] [*]Democratic administration [LIST] [*]Take over all healthcare and institute a single payer healthcare. [/LIST] [/LIST] Now you have the players, the motive and the goal you have to have a plan to reach the ultimate goals: [LIST] [*]UPS/IBT: Operation Shock, Rally and pressure: [/LIST] [LIST=1] [*=2]UPS sends letters to retires to show they mean business in regards to healthcare. [*=2]Start negotiations with a small window [*=2]Announce that UPS wants us to pay $$$$$ [*=2]have Hall/Hoffa put on the "rallies" [*=2]Present the Brothers with Teamcare [*=2]Leave little time from finishing negotiations and the end of the contract so that hopefully the new TA gets passed. [/LIST] [LIST] [*]IBT [LIST=1|INDENT=2] [*]Get healthcare expense out of UPS and the union. Get hourly rate higher by saving UPS the HC $'s [/LIST] [*]Democratic administration: [LIST=1|INDENT=2] [*]Get a healthcare reform passed that isn't as bad as a total single payer system. [*]Get the Unions on board. [LIST] [*]Get the Unions in control of healthcare [/LIST] [*]Get Unions to send letter asking for help in regards to healthcare. [*]Implement the single payer healthcare you wanted from the get go. [/LIST] [/LIST] Really not good at descriptions, but in a nut shell this is all a plan. UPS wins, because they are washed clean of HC. More $$ IBT wins because eventually we will all be in a single payer HC, more hourly rate= more union dues. Democratic administration is one step closer to having one class. The negotiations were a sham. The rallies were a sham. The letter to Reid and Pelosi is a scam to get the single payer healthcare that they wanted from the beginning. Its all a plan. Not necessarily directly tied to each other, but in the end it is all just smoke and mirrors. [B]Mark my words. In the end, we will all be in a single payer healthcare program. We will be making more money an hour, and the IBT and Democrats will still be holding hands.[/B] Thats all I got. Fire away. [/QUOTE]
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