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<blockquote data-quote="CanSore" data-source="post: 138023"><p>A college degree is not without merit. If you finished high school and proceeded no further, you cannot know the critical thinking skills one must develop to complete college. You also may not have experienced the life-skills needed to survive within a diverse group. </p><p></p><p>College is not everything, but it is another part of one's intellectual growth. Whether it be Art or Medicine, college exposes you to things that you didn't see in high school. It may be in the form of a sociology teacher forcing you see family, race, or sex in a different way. It may force you to mingle and learn from other races that you didn't experience in your home town. </p><p></p><p>To downplay college is no different than downplaying the value of drivers without education. You are an <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> if you cannot appreciate the value of each other's experience.</p><p></p><p>When I went to college I met foreign students who shared their experiences at home and in America. I was forced to complete tasks without Mom and Dad. I was forced to spend money and be held accountable(most college students don't spend money well). I learned to think for myself. I learned to research my opinions, and sometimes reject my long-held misguided opinions.</p><p></p><p>I was in the military as well. I learned more about dealing and finding something to respect about minorities. Something I didn't know while growing up in an affluent white area. I learned coping skills, teamwork and having pride in my accomplishments.</p><p></p><p>At UPS, I learned that all my college experiences helped me. I also noticed that while those without college could be good workers, they were often stunted by their limited educational experiences. It doesn't mean anyone without a college degree cannot be brilliant. Brilliance is something you have. Education is something you learn. </p><p></p><p>I have met brilliant people who would have been unstoppable if they had more education to marry to their god-given intelligence.</p><p></p><p>To suggest that a person who spent 4 or more years studying art, science, math, or english wasted their time on an irrelevant path is plainly just showing your own need for education.</p><p></p><p>Almost no position at UPS is paid fairly -- barring, perhaps, PT hourly in the centers or hub. These guys work the hardest (for the hours present) and make the least. The rest of us are all overpaid. Drivers especially, but management as well -- upper management the most.</p><p></p><p>There is a complete denial on this board when it comes to drivers owning up to the fact that they are simply drivers. Yeah, it takes skill and physical and mental ability. But, heck, it ain't rocket science. If it was so hard, how come it only take senority in the centers and hubs to get there. As I've noticed, it only takes the union to stay. There are a few awful drivers in every center I've visited. Those drivers bring down all of you. The union protects those and thus reduces all of you to the lowest common denominator. I would be mad if I were a good and thoughtful driver who had to endure the mindless few among you.</p><p></p><p>There are a bunch of duds in management too. I have to endure those. Luckily, those usually never rise above on-car. Unfortunately, they just plague you guys.</p><p></p><p>I would like for someone on this board to show me another driving job in america that makes as much as a UPS driver. The trucks are free, so are the uniforms, gas, oil, carwash, etc. You are really lucky people.</p><p></p><p>I think we are all tired of hearing that you deserve your money. No one deserves anything at UPS. You have to earn your keep, even if we earn more than we should.</p><p></p><p>Just because UPS makes so much money doesn't mean we have to spend it all on overpriced drivers and management.</p><p></p><p>FedEx and DHL are giving UPS a run for their money. I suspect without a labor union crisis at either of those places, we won't be competitive in the years to come. I hope I am wrong because I play to get a retirement from UPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CanSore, post: 138023"] A college degree is not without merit. If you finished high school and proceeded no further, you cannot know the critical thinking skills one must develop to complete college. You also may not have experienced the life-skills needed to survive within a diverse group. College is not everything, but it is another part of one's intellectual growth. Whether it be Art or Medicine, college exposes you to things that you didn't see in high school. It may be in the form of a sociology teacher forcing you see family, race, or sex in a different way. It may force you to mingle and learn from other races that you didn't experience in your home town. To downplay college is no different than downplaying the value of drivers without education. You are an :censored: if you cannot appreciate the value of each other's experience. When I went to college I met foreign students who shared their experiences at home and in America. I was forced to complete tasks without Mom and Dad. I was forced to spend money and be held accountable(most college students don't spend money well). I learned to think for myself. I learned to research my opinions, and sometimes reject my long-held misguided opinions. I was in the military as well. I learned more about dealing and finding something to respect about minorities. Something I didn't know while growing up in an affluent white area. I learned coping skills, teamwork and having pride in my accomplishments. At UPS, I learned that all my college experiences helped me. I also noticed that while those without college could be good workers, they were often stunted by their limited educational experiences. It doesn't mean anyone without a college degree cannot be brilliant. Brilliance is something you have. Education is something you learn. I have met brilliant people who would have been unstoppable if they had more education to marry to their god-given intelligence. To suggest that a person who spent 4 or more years studying art, science, math, or english wasted their time on an irrelevant path is plainly just showing your own need for education. Almost no position at UPS is paid fairly -- barring, perhaps, PT hourly in the centers or hub. These guys work the hardest (for the hours present) and make the least. The rest of us are all overpaid. Drivers especially, but management as well -- upper management the most. There is a complete denial on this board when it comes to drivers owning up to the fact that they are simply drivers. Yeah, it takes skill and physical and mental ability. But, heck, it ain't rocket science. If it was so hard, how come it only take senority in the centers and hubs to get there. As I've noticed, it only takes the union to stay. There are a few awful drivers in every center I've visited. Those drivers bring down all of you. The union protects those and thus reduces all of you to the lowest common denominator. I would be mad if I were a good and thoughtful driver who had to endure the mindless few among you. There are a bunch of duds in management too. I have to endure those. Luckily, those usually never rise above on-car. Unfortunately, they just plague you guys. I would like for someone on this board to show me another driving job in america that makes as much as a UPS driver. The trucks are free, so are the uniforms, gas, oil, carwash, etc. You are really lucky people. I think we are all tired of hearing that you deserve your money. No one deserves anything at UPS. You have to earn your keep, even if we earn more than we should. Just because UPS makes so much money doesn't mean we have to spend it all on overpriced drivers and management. FedEx and DHL are giving UPS a run for their money. I suspect without a labor union crisis at either of those places, we won't be competitive in the years to come. I hope I am wrong because I play to get a retirement from UPS. [/QUOTE]
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