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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 878679" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>This is the kind of indepth look into a situation that needs to be done(well done crow). Guys who do stupid things like this are a dime a dozen at UPS. The fact that this guy showed up for work an hour ahead of time shows he "intended" to cheat the system. He wanted to work off the clock, prepare his day (working off the clock) and do all the work instead of showing up on time, only taking what he could make service on, having another driver ready to take the rest of the work and working within the confines of the contract.</p><p></p><p>His biggest worry of the day seemed to be "making the air ontime". WHAT? When did that become part of your job description. Thats the job of the dispatch. "WE" dont own the dispatch or control what happens. If you showed ontime, took out too many stops and failed 10 packages, well, thats on the dispatch and not you.</p><p></p><p>UPS wants guys like you, guys who wil place themselves in jeopardy because they dont "think" for themselves. Youre so worried about the operation, you dont think about yourself first. You said "the idea came up" and you went along with the program.</p><p></p><p>I say, nice having you, hope you learned your lesson and good luck finding a new job.</p><p></p><p>TO the rest of the UPSers out there, hope you take this as a learning lesson of WHAT NOT TO DO. Maybe the next air drivers promoted will only take what can be serviced properly at the normal start time and they wont try to cheat another person out of a job by "cheating" the system.</p><p></p><p>I am so sick of young guys coming in and trying to do "TOO MUCH" because some supervisor wants to do more with less and improperly. If air is going to be failed, then you notify them that it will most likely be failed and they put another driver on the road.</p><p></p><p>We never work off the clock and head out on the road to "help out" the company. I have no sympathy for you in this regard. You made a choice. I dont care if the sups were involved or not, you were complicit with a bad idea. You cooperated and deserved to be punished.</p><p></p><p>Whether or not the sup gets disciplined is another matter. Its going to come down to your word vs. his word. I hardly doubt the supervisor involved will come forward and admit he collaborated with you on a scam to fool UPS. </p><p></p><p>If he did, you would not be unemployed.</p><p></p><p>My disrespect comes from your NOT electing union representation. This tells me you dont respect the union process. If you have been here long enough, you would know never to enter a meeting or sign a statement without the benefit of your steward present. You sound as if you believe you can do this all on your own and I say you should. Leave the union out of it as you did the day they called you in.</p><p></p><p>Be like BRETT and handle business yourself.</p><p></p><p>Guys like you need to be used as shinning examples of how NOT to perform at UPS. You may be lucky and the the DM will leave you out for a week and then return you as a favor to the local, but when you return , you better re think your position on how you conduct yourself at UPS.</p><p></p><p>Your start time is your start time, you dont have any other obligations to consider the operation other than that. If there are 25 air stops on a saturday and you can make proper service on 15 of them, then thats what you tell the dispatch. IT ISNT YOUR JOB to find a solution to THEIR problem.</p><p></p><p>If you come back, you better have learned your lesson, if not, good luck at your next job.</p><p></p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 878679, member: 17969"] This is the kind of indepth look into a situation that needs to be done(well done crow). Guys who do stupid things like this are a dime a dozen at UPS. The fact that this guy showed up for work an hour ahead of time shows he "intended" to cheat the system. He wanted to work off the clock, prepare his day (working off the clock) and do all the work instead of showing up on time, only taking what he could make service on, having another driver ready to take the rest of the work and working within the confines of the contract. His biggest worry of the day seemed to be "making the air ontime". WHAT? When did that become part of your job description. Thats the job of the dispatch. "WE" dont own the dispatch or control what happens. If you showed ontime, took out too many stops and failed 10 packages, well, thats on the dispatch and not you. UPS wants guys like you, guys who wil place themselves in jeopardy because they dont "think" for themselves. Youre so worried about the operation, you dont think about yourself first. You said "the idea came up" and you went along with the program. I say, nice having you, hope you learned your lesson and good luck finding a new job. TO the rest of the UPSers out there, hope you take this as a learning lesson of WHAT NOT TO DO. Maybe the next air drivers promoted will only take what can be serviced properly at the normal start time and they wont try to cheat another person out of a job by "cheating" the system. I am so sick of young guys coming in and trying to do "TOO MUCH" because some supervisor wants to do more with less and improperly. If air is going to be failed, then you notify them that it will most likely be failed and they put another driver on the road. We never work off the clock and head out on the road to "help out" the company. I have no sympathy for you in this regard. You made a choice. I dont care if the sups were involved or not, you were complicit with a bad idea. You cooperated and deserved to be punished. Whether or not the sup gets disciplined is another matter. Its going to come down to your word vs. his word. I hardly doubt the supervisor involved will come forward and admit he collaborated with you on a scam to fool UPS. If he did, you would not be unemployed. My disrespect comes from your NOT electing union representation. This tells me you dont respect the union process. If you have been here long enough, you would know never to enter a meeting or sign a statement without the benefit of your steward present. You sound as if you believe you can do this all on your own and I say you should. Leave the union out of it as you did the day they called you in. Be like BRETT and handle business yourself. Guys like you need to be used as shinning examples of how NOT to perform at UPS. You may be lucky and the the DM will leave you out for a week and then return you as a favor to the local, but when you return , you better re think your position on how you conduct yourself at UPS. Your start time is your start time, you dont have any other obligations to consider the operation other than that. If there are 25 air stops on a saturday and you can make proper service on 15 of them, then thats what you tell the dispatch. IT ISNT YOUR JOB to find a solution to THEIR problem. If you come back, you better have learned your lesson, if not, good luck at your next job. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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