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<blockquote data-quote="twoweeled" data-source="post: 1199937" data-attributes="member: 27108"><p>We were at one time blessed to be teamsters. I think that time is passed, or passing. The 7 weeks of vacation has been that way for how long? do you think it will ever go up to 8? So where is the progress? Hard to get fired permanently? Not that difficult in my opinion. Innocent till proven guilty really is absent in so many cases. Everything get titled under dishonesty now. My union dues doubled sometime ago, and representation is a fraction of what it was! Fuzzy math? Sure, there are some small 2%-3% raises, but the production gets raised at least that, with more work getting done in the same allotted time. So who is really getting the raise here?</p><p>Sure, he will get his job back, but should he really have ever been fired to gegin with? Seems as time goes on, many of us rationalize things away in our own minds. maybe making us feel better about getting the short end. </p><p>Things were worse before you say? Maybe 50 years ago (don't know,I wasn't here). Things were definitely better 25-30 year ago. Remember when a BS would walk into the building and see violations as he walked in? He'd call management on it right there and then! Management dreaded Union Reps coming into the building. Dreaded it! Now, it's the union rep who dreads coming into the building. Everything now, seems to be accepted wtih "they said it won't happen again". "Well, it's their company - they can do what they want". The fight is gone in my opinion. No, the driver you respond too, doesn't sound like a fool. Valid concerns. That's the reality or 2013.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="twoweeled, post: 1199937, member: 27108"] We were at one time blessed to be teamsters. I think that time is passed, or passing. The 7 weeks of vacation has been that way for how long? do you think it will ever go up to 8? So where is the progress? Hard to get fired permanently? Not that difficult in my opinion. Innocent till proven guilty really is absent in so many cases. Everything get titled under dishonesty now. My union dues doubled sometime ago, and representation is a fraction of what it was! Fuzzy math? Sure, there are some small 2%-3% raises, but the production gets raised at least that, with more work getting done in the same allotted time. So who is really getting the raise here? Sure, he will get his job back, but should he really have ever been fired to gegin with? Seems as time goes on, many of us rationalize things away in our own minds. maybe making us feel better about getting the short end. Things were worse before you say? Maybe 50 years ago (don't know,I wasn't here). Things were definitely better 25-30 year ago. Remember when a BS would walk into the building and see violations as he walked in? He'd call management on it right there and then! Management dreaded Union Reps coming into the building. Dreaded it! Now, it's the union rep who dreads coming into the building. Everything now, seems to be accepted wtih "they said it won't happen again". "Well, it's their company - they can do what they want". The fight is gone in my opinion. No, the driver you respond too, doesn't sound like a fool. Valid concerns. That's the reality or 2013. [/QUOTE]
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