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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 327470" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>I find your post interesting. For some parts, I could not agree more. For others, I find that you are assuming a lot of ideals that are just not true.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, management cares about safety, because it is a huge money issue for them. A money issue that loses money for the center. So like in every endevour at UPS, follow the money.</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, there are many posts that you choose to ignore that identify huge failures within the safety system. Failures that partially come because in many centers, safety which is touted to be job one, gets religated to job 2 or 3. It comes after dispatch, after preload, after air commits. It is not given a high priority by management. Like sups going down the belt getting people to sign the roster for the videos in December. why was that not completed at the time the video was watched? </p><p> </p><p>The real answer is that many centers are only interested in compliance issues, not actually the drivers learning and using safe work methods. As long as the center is meeting its goals productions wise, and can pass the paperwork test, all is good. That is all they are interested in. What part of that dont you understand. I have seen too many times where safety meetings that were scheduled months in advance were cancelled by lack of proper planing by the management team, and those drivers were sent out on road, many in the blind because they were from other centers there only for the safety function.</p><p> </p><p>Then there is the paid time issue. We cant have the driver work more than 9.5, so if we cut anywhere, the safety time will be where it is cut. Sorry, seen it happen too many times. and it is worse now.</p><p> </p><p>And finally, the whole UPS/Teamsters safety program was created not to disipline drivers, but to mentor them. Teach them to practice safety. Not to mindlessly memorize a bunch of meaningless words that you can spout off when someone turns on the switch. That might be the way you learn, but the vast majority of workers dont learn that way. </p><p> </p><p>So you (managment) have taken something that had a lot of potential to do good, and save the company tons of money, and turned it into a weapon against the drivers. And you wonder why some (not the majority maybe, but quite a few) have now developed and attitude? Wonder where that attitude came from? Could it be your condecending attitude?</p><p> </p><p>Maybe management needs to spend some time in front of the mirror and practice some honesty themselves before casting the stone?</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 327470, member: 484"] I find your post interesting. For some parts, I could not agree more. For others, I find that you are assuming a lot of ideals that are just not true. Yes, management cares about safety, because it is a huge money issue for them. A money issue that loses money for the center. So like in every endevour at UPS, follow the money. Secondly, there are many posts that you choose to ignore that identify huge failures within the safety system. Failures that partially come because in many centers, safety which is touted to be job one, gets religated to job 2 or 3. It comes after dispatch, after preload, after air commits. It is not given a high priority by management. Like sups going down the belt getting people to sign the roster for the videos in December. why was that not completed at the time the video was watched? The real answer is that many centers are only interested in compliance issues, not actually the drivers learning and using safe work methods. As long as the center is meeting its goals productions wise, and can pass the paperwork test, all is good. That is all they are interested in. What part of that dont you understand. I have seen too many times where safety meetings that were scheduled months in advance were cancelled by lack of proper planing by the management team, and those drivers were sent out on road, many in the blind because they were from other centers there only for the safety function. Then there is the paid time issue. We cant have the driver work more than 9.5, so if we cut anywhere, the safety time will be where it is cut. Sorry, seen it happen too many times. and it is worse now. And finally, the whole UPS/Teamsters safety program was created not to disipline drivers, but to mentor them. Teach them to practice safety. Not to mindlessly memorize a bunch of meaningless words that you can spout off when someone turns on the switch. That might be the way you learn, but the vast majority of workers dont learn that way. So you (managment) have taken something that had a lot of potential to do good, and save the company tons of money, and turned it into a weapon against the drivers. And you wonder why some (not the majority maybe, but quite a few) have now developed and attitude? Wonder where that attitude came from? Could it be your condecending attitude? Maybe management needs to spend some time in front of the mirror and practice some honesty themselves before casting the stone? d [/QUOTE]
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