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<blockquote data-quote="TechGrrl" data-source="post: 546543" data-attributes="member: 4932"><p>I agree with everything you just said to pertzel_man. The district programmers have very limited scope to the applications they create. True enterprise applications have much higher requirements for availability and maintainability.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, I think Mr. Barnes is chasing a chimera with the global sourcing gig. Most of the rest of the industry has figured out that just because you can hire a programmer for $10 a day in Mumbai, doesn't mean you can get an enterprise application for cheaps. I am not aware of any successful 'global sourcing' project that we have ever had. Most of the ones I am aware of collapsed in smoking ruins due to the difficulty of communicating across 12 time zones and coordinating the multiple business units that needed to participate. Very few applications these days are 'stovepipe' in the sense that only one business unit needs to be consulted about the requirements. Half the time we can't communicate successfully across town or between ATL, NJ, and LOU. </p><p></p><p>I suspect that Dave is being driven to this idiocy by a management committee driven by a bean counter mentality that doesn't 'get it'. Dave should be educating them on this issue, not buckling. </p><p></p><p>Coca-Cola just located a new applications development group in Louisville, INSTEAD OF OVERSEAS, because they figured out overseas was too expensive ONCE YOU ADDED UP ALL THE COSTS! Their new office is across the street from the Air Group Building, and I already know folks applying there, because they have had it with the top management screwing with them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TechGrrl, post: 546543, member: 4932"] I agree with everything you just said to pertzel_man. The district programmers have very limited scope to the applications they create. True enterprise applications have much higher requirements for availability and maintainability. Having said that, I think Mr. Barnes is chasing a chimera with the global sourcing gig. Most of the rest of the industry has figured out that just because you can hire a programmer for $10 a day in Mumbai, doesn't mean you can get an enterprise application for cheaps. I am not aware of any successful 'global sourcing' project that we have ever had. Most of the ones I am aware of collapsed in smoking ruins due to the difficulty of communicating across 12 time zones and coordinating the multiple business units that needed to participate. Very few applications these days are 'stovepipe' in the sense that only one business unit needs to be consulted about the requirements. Half the time we can't communicate successfully across town or between ATL, NJ, and LOU. I suspect that Dave is being driven to this idiocy by a management committee driven by a bean counter mentality that doesn't 'get it'. Dave should be educating them on this issue, not buckling. Coca-Cola just located a new applications development group in Louisville, INSTEAD OF OVERSEAS, because they figured out overseas was too expensive ONCE YOU ADDED UP ALL THE COSTS! Their new office is across the street from the Air Group Building, and I already know folks applying there, because they have had it with the top management screwing with them. [/QUOTE]
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