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<blockquote data-quote="Been In Brown Too Long" data-source="post: 3620427" data-attributes="member: 32249"><p>Problem with your logic, though, is that if you think this company is going to give you a single dime more than they want to, you are mistaken. It is the company, not the union, that is paying you sub par wages. I agree part timers are getting the shaft. You may be unhappy with the union leadership, but WE are the union. You need to focus your energy on changing the union leadership, not on abandoning the ship. Vote no on the current proposal to force them back to the table. If you don't get the results you want, vote them out. </p><p></p><p>In the end, as bad as the job is with the union in place, it would be exponentially worse without it. And threatening full timers on this board with what you think will hurt their penions is not going to get you their support. The company funds the pension, not dues, so you not paying dues means zero to the pension. </p><p></p><p>The union has done its research. Historically, part timers don't vote. Those that do, mostly vote yes. Reason, they don't want a strike, need the steady income and bennies. There are way more part timers than full timers. The reason part time wages are where they are is really because of part timers lack of voting and simply voting yes for the last few decades.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Been In Brown Too Long, post: 3620427, member: 32249"] Problem with your logic, though, is that if you think this company is going to give you a single dime more than they want to, you are mistaken. It is the company, not the union, that is paying you sub par wages. I agree part timers are getting the shaft. You may be unhappy with the union leadership, but WE are the union. You need to focus your energy on changing the union leadership, not on abandoning the ship. Vote no on the current proposal to force them back to the table. If you don't get the results you want, vote them out. In the end, as bad as the job is with the union in place, it would be exponentially worse without it. And threatening full timers on this board with what you think will hurt their penions is not going to get you their support. The company funds the pension, not dues, so you not paying dues means zero to the pension. The union has done its research. Historically, part timers don't vote. Those that do, mostly vote yes. Reason, they don't want a strike, need the steady income and bennies. There are way more part timers than full timers. The reason part time wages are where they are is really because of part timers lack of voting and simply voting yes for the last few decades. [/QUOTE]
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