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<blockquote data-quote="BrownFlush" data-source="post: 4614577" data-attributes="member: 65823"><p>No you don't.</p><p></p><p>Without the shedding of blood there would be no forgiveness. ( Heb.9:22) The "performance" of baptism according to scripture is a command and the point of salvation. It is an act of obedience (not a work, to earn anything) just as faith, ( this comes by hearing what the Word of God says, Rom.10:17, not Jingle Brain ) confession( Rom. 10:10) , Repentance Acts 2: 38 . It is the point when one comes in contact with the Blood of Christ, where grace, mercy , and all spiritual blessings are Eph. 1:3( including forgiveness of sins) ... Romans 6 gives a great picture of taking a dead man( dead in sin) bury the dead man ( according to you , you are burying somebody alive if he is already saved )in the waters baptism and being resurrected ,THEN to walk in newness of life.</p><p> Just read it. I'm just saying what's there. It's not hard.</p><p>Where does the Bible teach the alien sinner comes in contact with that blood ? At what point of obedience?</p><p></p><p>You're not the first one.</p><p></p><p>It was shed for Hitler ,too. Didn't do him a bit of good.</p><p></p><p>Preference has nothing to do with what God wants. Doesn't matter what I want. It's what God wants that matters.</p><p>The grace is there. Obedience is required. No on can work or earn salvation( don't confuse the text, Paul was talking about the works and the traditions of the Law of Moses)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownFlush, post: 4614577, member: 65823"] No you don't. Without the shedding of blood there would be no forgiveness. ( Heb.9:22) The "performance" of baptism according to scripture is a command and the point of salvation. It is an act of obedience (not a work, to earn anything) just as faith, ( this comes by hearing what the Word of God says, Rom.10:17, not Jingle Brain ) confession( Rom. 10:10) , Repentance Acts 2: 38 . It is the point when one comes in contact with the Blood of Christ, where grace, mercy , and all spiritual blessings are Eph. 1:3( including forgiveness of sins) ... Romans 6 gives a great picture of taking a dead man( dead in sin) bury the dead man ( according to you , you are burying somebody alive if he is already saved )in the waters baptism and being resurrected ,THEN to walk in newness of life. Just read it. I'm just saying what's there. It's not hard. Where does the Bible teach the alien sinner comes in contact with that blood ? At what point of obedience? You're not the first one. It was shed for Hitler ,too. Didn't do him a bit of good. Preference has nothing to do with what God wants. Doesn't matter what I want. It's what God wants that matters. The grace is there. Obedience is required. No on can work or earn salvation( don't confuse the text, Paul was talking about the works and the traditions of the Law of Moses) [/QUOTE]
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