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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Correcto" data-source="post: 5313028" data-attributes="member: 60631">Uhm yes it did compared to the rise of democracy and secularism. People who act like getting further from God harmed the west don’t understand the enlightenment and the rise of secular governments. They don’t recognize deist philosophy as a stepping stone to rejecting god all together, the fall of a religious understanding of our world and the rise of a scientific one.[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/deism.htm[/URL]The writings about in the constitution about God are based in deism. i don’t think you people really appreciate the enlightenment if your conclusion is religion is a good thing and having a very religious society is a good thing. I think you reject too much of the science and philosophy in favor of your bibles and churches.</blockquote>