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<blockquote data-quote="Darmark7" data-source="post: 5557658" data-attributes="member: 83127">I’m not saying that a sermon is only given on giving but I am saying that a speech or scripture or something of that kind is almost always given before collection time. Why? The most generous people don’t need to hear each service why they need to give. There is no speech or scripture before singing, prayer, or preaching every service to tell you why it is coming. The reason is because it is manipulation either to tell you what you will be blessed with or cursed with (depending on the denomination) for your giving or not. If this was not so there would be no reason to mention it. It would be just like singing, prayer, or preaching they would just do it and the most generous people would give without a word said. Sometimes we are so use to manipulation that we don’t even see it or just accept that everyone does it so it becomes normal. There is nothing wrong if a person agrees to be part of the manipulation but they have to understand not everyone sees it as OK and defends it or wants to be part of it.&nbsp; Again, please send me a link to your church or their website. I would love a church that doesn’t have a mini sermon asking for money every service. That would be really trusting God.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Darmark7, post: 5557658, member: 83127"] I’m not saying that a sermon is only given on giving but I am saying that a speech or scripture or something of that kind is almost always given before collection time. Why? The most generous people don’t need to hear each service why they need to give. There is no speech or scripture before singing, prayer, or preaching every service to tell you why it is coming. The reason is because it is manipulation either to tell you what you will be blessed with or cursed with (depending on the denomination) for your giving or not. If this was not so there would be no reason to mention it. It would be just like singing, prayer, or preaching they would just do it and the most generous people would give without a word said. Sometimes we are so use to manipulation that we don’t even see it or just accept that everyone does it so it becomes normal. There is nothing wrong if a person agrees to be part of the manipulation but they have to understand not everyone sees it as OK and defends it or wants to be part of it. Again, please send me a link to your church or their website. I would love a church that doesn’t have a mini sermon asking for money every service. That would be really trusting God. [/QUOTE]

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