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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5867538" data-attributes="member: 24302">No, I wouldn&#039;t.&nbsp; I would have never for example called for the jailing of homosexuals as once was common unless they were performing sex acts in a public place.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s reprehensible what homosexuals do in gay pride parades but if they&#039;re legally allowed to do so then I can&#039;t stop it.&nbsp; Concerning slavery.&nbsp; The New Testament deals with slavery in Philemon.&nbsp; It was the system of the day by which most things got done.&nbsp; It was a manual labor world.&nbsp; Philemon made it clear that both slaves and masters had a responsibility to treat each other with respect and dignity.&nbsp; It&#039;s what allowed going forward as Christianity became predominant the decent treatment of slaves.&nbsp; That wasn&#039;t always adhered to.&nbsp; As whites became no longer enslaved the powers that be decided that it was ok to enslave Africans because they in their opinion weren&#039;t entirely human.&nbsp; And that was reflected in our own constitution when deciding how to count people to determine political power among the States.&nbsp; Slavery in the U.S. was particularly brutal for blacks.&nbsp; As it was brutal for Native Americans in the Spanish world.&nbsp; The Portuguese seemed to have a better handle on it and that&#039;s reflected in the mixing of races in Brazil to a greater extent than anywhere else.&nbsp; The French in Haiti were so brutal that when the slaves successfully rebelled they killed every white in Haiti.&nbsp; The point is the issue is a lot more complex than you&#039;re making it.&nbsp; A lot had to do with local culture.&nbsp; Throughout history the Church often compromised because the greedy in power demanded they do so.&nbsp; But that doesn&#039;t change my supposition.&nbsp; The Bible makes it clear that one can claim to be Christian but they will be judged by their actions and will lose their soul if they don&#039;t live the Christian life.&nbsp; You can point to all the bad things in history that supposed Christians did but in the end those people will be judged for those things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5867538, member: 24302"] No, I wouldn't. I would have never for example called for the jailing of homosexuals as once was common unless they were performing sex acts in a public place. I think it's reprehensible what homosexuals do in gay pride parades but if they're legally allowed to do so then I can't stop it. Concerning slavery. The New Testament deals with slavery in Philemon. It was the system of the day by which most things got done. It was a manual labor world. Philemon made it clear that both slaves and masters had a responsibility to treat each other with respect and dignity. It's what allowed going forward as Christianity became predominant the decent treatment of slaves. That wasn't always adhered to. As whites became no longer enslaved the powers that be decided that it was ok to enslave Africans because they in their opinion weren't entirely human. And that was reflected in our own constitution when deciding how to count people to determine political power among the States. Slavery in the U.S. was particularly brutal for blacks. As it was brutal for Native Americans in the Spanish world. The Portuguese seemed to have a better handle on it and that's reflected in the mixing of races in Brazil to a greater extent than anywhere else. The French in Haiti were so brutal that when the slaves successfully rebelled they killed every white in Haiti. The point is the issue is a lot more complex than you're making it. A lot had to do with local culture. Throughout history the Church often compromised because the greedy in power demanded they do so. But that doesn't change my supposition. The Bible makes it clear that one can claim to be Christian but they will be judged by their actions and will lose their soul if they don't live the Christian life. You can point to all the bad things in history that supposed Christians did but in the end those people will be judged for those things. [/QUOTE]

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