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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whither" data-source="post: 5102984" data-attributes="member: 76643"><p>That's the rub. I say it's not a "choice" that I can sell my time/labor for another company, or else start a company and hire others do the same. "Meet the new rulers, same as the old." A choice would mean that I/you/anyone would not face dreadful obstacles to living another way. But that's not really possible as long as we live in a society based on wage labor. It is imaginative leap. But it's high time to stop dreaming the dreams of this bankrupt society.</p></blockquote><p></p>