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<blockquote data-quote="959Nanook" data-source="post: 1023172" data-attributes="member: 14462"><p>Then say it! A vote for a two-tier wage scale by a top-scale driver is saying that they make too much as a top-scale driver (why else would you vote for a lesser wage if you felt it was just right or not enough) AND they don't feel they owe anything to the Teamsters that follow them as they reap the benefits of the sacrifices of the Teamsters who preceded them. </p><p></p><p>The reasons that you feel we make too much (inability to compete in the labor market with non-union drivers, we are actually compensated too much for our lack of skill and licensing requirements, or some other reason) are less important than the choice made to address it when you you advocate for or vote for a two-tier wage scale. </p><p></p><p>I take no issue with the logic you have offered in the BC forums (as I understand it) for considering whether or not regular full-time Package Driver wages should be addressed. I take issue with the half-hearted acknowledgement represented by advocating for a two-tier wage scale (or voting for it) that will make little waves with your peers and punish anyone that follows you because they don't all have a voice or a vote. </p><p></p><p>I will say it. I think top-scale Package Drivers wages are generally too high (I am sure there are exceptions to the general rule). The consequences include (but are not limited to) that there is a widely perceived injustice between us and other UPS Teamsters who have not received wage increases at a commensurate pace, overtime is relatively cheap compared to hiring additional part-timers as full-time drivers for additional routes and it has become a beast that eats its own tail, and Package Drivers have come to expect overtime and wage increases so they are living their lives accordingly and becoming increasingly willing to let the rest of the Teamsters suffer for their own benefit (e.g. advocate FOR a two-tier wage scale BEFORE negotiations when the injustice between PT and FT is raised rather than addressing the problem).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="959Nanook, post: 1023172, member: 14462"] Then say it! A vote for a two-tier wage scale by a top-scale driver is saying that they make too much as a top-scale driver (why else would you vote for a lesser wage if you felt it was just right or not enough) AND they don't feel they owe anything to the Teamsters that follow them as they reap the benefits of the sacrifices of the Teamsters who preceded them. The reasons that you feel we make too much (inability to compete in the labor market with non-union drivers, we are actually compensated too much for our lack of skill and licensing requirements, or some other reason) are less important than the choice made to address it when you you advocate for or vote for a two-tier wage scale. I take no issue with the logic you have offered in the BC forums (as I understand it) for considering whether or not regular full-time Package Driver wages should be addressed. I take issue with the half-hearted acknowledgement represented by advocating for a two-tier wage scale (or voting for it) that will make little waves with your peers and punish anyone that follows you because they don't all have a voice or a vote. I will say it. I think top-scale Package Drivers wages are generally too high (I am sure there are exceptions to the general rule). The consequences include (but are not limited to) that there is a widely perceived injustice between us and other UPS Teamsters who have not received wage increases at a commensurate pace, overtime is relatively cheap compared to hiring additional part-timers as full-time drivers for additional routes and it has become a beast that eats its own tail, and Package Drivers have come to expect overtime and wage increases so they are living their lives accordingly and becoming increasingly willing to let the rest of the Teamsters suffer for their own benefit (e.g. advocate FOR a two-tier wage scale BEFORE negotiations when the injustice between PT and FT is raised rather than addressing the problem). [/QUOTE]
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