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<blockquote data-quote="22.34life" data-source="post: 1025186" data-attributes="member: 23722"><p>point of fact i am full time and i do work 8 hours a day for ups and no i have never been biten by a dog or chased by a wild boar in the "SAFETY" of my warehouse which is the farthest thing from safe.heres the real problem,the p/t system is a joke and should be trashed,$150/week isnt enough to live on for ANYONE anymore and that includes students which none of these guys in the hub are anyway anymore.you see upswife there was a time when you had to be a real college student to get a job at ups and it worked because the starting pay was way above minimum wage so it didnt matter that you only got 20/hrs a week so if minimum wage was 4.50 and ups paid 8 that meant you would have to work 40 hours flipping burgers to make what ups paid for 20 and you got medical for you and your dependents,pretty good deal huh.now fast foward 15 years and minimum wage is 7.70 and ups starts at 8.5 that means that burger flipping job looks not so bad now and its easy, no back breaking labor.p/t newhires now 1 year before benifits and 18 months to add dependents,now that whataburger job looks real good.their was also a time when you pretty much knew that if you tuffed it out that you would be fulltime one day maybe in 3-5 years,now you will be lucky to get friend/t in ten,no new 22.3 jobs and new p/c jobs are seen less and less.this is why the people at ups inside now are trash,theft is out of controll and the work environment borders on prison.NOBODY wants this job anymore,i talk to the hr guy all the time and he tells me he cant get people to stay and has to turn people away all the time because they are felons.you see upswife this is what ups wants a revolving door of p/t newhires.as the right to work states begin to outnumber the closed shops and the new are dumped on to favor the old, ups gains a foothold in the fact that soon p/t non union members will outnumber the teamsters and with the technology in the new diads gps, turn by turn nav.,and the pal system, drivers will be easly replaced and when that happens "CHECKMATE".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="22.34life, post: 1025186, member: 23722"] point of fact i am full time and i do work 8 hours a day for ups and no i have never been biten by a dog or chased by a wild boar in the "SAFETY" of my warehouse which is the farthest thing from safe.heres the real problem,the p/t system is a joke and should be trashed,$150/week isnt enough to live on for ANYONE anymore and that includes students which none of these guys in the hub are anyway anymore.you see upswife there was a time when you had to be a real college student to get a job at ups and it worked because the starting pay was way above minimum wage so it didnt matter that you only got 20/hrs a week so if minimum wage was 4.50 and ups paid 8 that meant you would have to work 40 hours flipping burgers to make what ups paid for 20 and you got medical for you and your dependents,pretty good deal huh.now fast foward 15 years and minimum wage is 7.70 and ups starts at 8.5 that means that burger flipping job looks not so bad now and its easy, no back breaking labor.p/t newhires now 1 year before benifits and 18 months to add dependents,now that whataburger job looks real good.their was also a time when you pretty much knew that if you tuffed it out that you would be fulltime one day maybe in 3-5 years,now you will be lucky to get friend/t in ten,no new 22.3 jobs and new p/c jobs are seen less and less.this is why the people at ups inside now are trash,theft is out of controll and the work environment borders on prison.NOBODY wants this job anymore,i talk to the hr guy all the time and he tells me he cant get people to stay and has to turn people away all the time because they are felons.you see upswife this is what ups wants a revolving door of p/t newhires.as the right to work states begin to outnumber the closed shops and the new are dumped on to favor the old, ups gains a foothold in the fact that soon p/t non union members will outnumber the teamsters and with the technology in the new diads gps, turn by turn nav.,and the pal system, drivers will be easly replaced and when that happens "CHECKMATE". [/QUOTE]
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