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<blockquote data-quote="104Feeder" data-source="post: 2948347" data-attributes="member: 42554"><p>Sorry I went way over your head with the compound question thing. I'll keep my answers simple so there is no misunderstanding. Seems like you were on extended leave during the last negotiations. Highlights taken from my notes:</p><p>-Local 104 covers Arizona</p><p>-Andy M as in another name for a Sheriff in the Old West, was the Secretary Treasurer our Local as well as sitting on many Regional and National committees. </p><p>-One of the committees he sits on deals with Southwest Service Administrators that administrates the pension plan. </p><p>-When the Company wanted to ditch our HC benefits, Hall wanted everyone to just go into Teamcare because it was the only fund large enough to take on an influx of 140,000 new dependents (that smaller, segregated segment you referred to). </p><p>-Teamcare is inferior to our previous benefits, so this triggered the Western Region to assert their Maintenance of Standards clause, joined by Local 177</p><p>-to try and get the West and 177 to come around, Hall came up with Teamcare "Enhanced". $629 million in additional benefits. This still did not meet our previous benefits</p><p>-The Western Supplement and Package/Sort riders had already been signed off at this time, further negotiation was not allowed</p><p>-NM passes but WCT & SW failed, preserving our option to "Carve Out", allowing us to control our Destiny</p><p>-WR&177 will receive their portion of the $629M for enhancements, but there are no reserves when we start our plan. </p><p>-Andy projects $2.5B over 5 years to fund our plan, buying retiree coverage and post-65 coverage with a portion of our general wage increase if necessary</p><p>-Andy plans to use the money we have in years 1,2,and 3, with a possible vote to move money if necessary in years 4 and 5 (this has not been necessary, plan is exceeding expectations)</p><p>-$1.25 going to pension first three years, $.25 to restore retiree and post-65 coverage</p><p>-Andy with SWSA presents our plan with Aetna</p><p>-deductible in year 5, demanded so it mirrors Teamcare, $100ind/$200family, $1000 max out of pocket</p><p>-changes to weekly eligiblity vs. monthly</p><p>-Retiree coverage Yr 1 $50/100 Yr2 $100/200 Yr3 $150/300 Yr4 $150/300 Yr5 $150/300</p><p>-August 2017 we are tied to Teamcare. If they put entire $1 of H,W&P to TC we will have to also, otherwise entire $1 will be going to WCTPF. </p><p></p><p>Differences from Teamcare:</p><p>-no Post-65 coverage</p><p>-no Surviving spouse coverage</p><p>- our retiree coverage cost goes down to $50/mo Post 65</p><p>-40 benefits covered were cut by Teamcare ex: Prosthetics 80% vs 100% WR177, durable medical equipment 80 vs 100, ER 80 vs 100, Hospice 80 vs 100, Hearing aids 80 vs 100, eye exam 80 vs 100, dental 80 vs 100, Orthdontia NC vs 100 no cap</p><p></p><p>If this doesn't help you understand then nothing will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="104Feeder, post: 2948347, member: 42554"] Sorry I went way over your head with the compound question thing. I'll keep my answers simple so there is no misunderstanding. Seems like you were on extended leave during the last negotiations. Highlights taken from my notes: -Local 104 covers Arizona -Andy M as in another name for a Sheriff in the Old West, was the Secretary Treasurer our Local as well as sitting on many Regional and National committees. -One of the committees he sits on deals with Southwest Service Administrators that administrates the pension plan. -When the Company wanted to ditch our HC benefits, Hall wanted everyone to just go into Teamcare because it was the only fund large enough to take on an influx of 140,000 new dependents (that smaller, segregated segment you referred to). -Teamcare is inferior to our previous benefits, so this triggered the Western Region to assert their Maintenance of Standards clause, joined by Local 177 -to try and get the West and 177 to come around, Hall came up with Teamcare "Enhanced". $629 million in additional benefits. This still did not meet our previous benefits -The Western Supplement and Package/Sort riders had already been signed off at this time, further negotiation was not allowed -NM passes but WCT & SW failed, preserving our option to "Carve Out", allowing us to control our Destiny -WR&177 will receive their portion of the $629M for enhancements, but there are no reserves when we start our plan. -Andy projects $2.5B over 5 years to fund our plan, buying retiree coverage and post-65 coverage with a portion of our general wage increase if necessary -Andy plans to use the money we have in years 1,2,and 3, with a possible vote to move money if necessary in years 4 and 5 (this has not been necessary, plan is exceeding expectations) -$1.25 going to pension first three years, $.25 to restore retiree and post-65 coverage -Andy with SWSA presents our plan with Aetna -deductible in year 5, demanded so it mirrors Teamcare, $100ind/$200family, $1000 max out of pocket -changes to weekly eligiblity vs. monthly -Retiree coverage Yr 1 $50/100 Yr2 $100/200 Yr3 $150/300 Yr4 $150/300 Yr5 $150/300 -August 2017 we are tied to Teamcare. If they put entire $1 of H,W&P to TC we will have to also, otherwise entire $1 will be going to WCTPF. Differences from Teamcare: -no Post-65 coverage -no Surviving spouse coverage - our retiree coverage cost goes down to $50/mo Post 65 -40 benefits covered were cut by Teamcare ex: Prosthetics 80% vs 100% WR177, durable medical equipment 80 vs 100, ER 80 vs 100, Hospice 80 vs 100, Hearing aids 80 vs 100, eye exam 80 vs 100, dental 80 vs 100, Orthdontia NC vs 100 no cap If this doesn't help you understand then nothing will. [/QUOTE]
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