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Local 104 refuses to cooperate with the Department of Labor
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<blockquote data-quote="twoweeled" data-source="post: 2964680" data-attributes="member: 27108"><p>Maybe we agree, in a nutshell the company agrees to spend $X amount of dollars. It's our choice (sorta) how it gets divided. No doubt it's difficult/impossible to tell employees to sacrifice anything. I feel it has little/nothing to do with foregoing wage increases for employees who may never exist. Let's face it. It's just; what is good for me, right now! That's how some of our past contracts past. It was beneficial for a slight majority and would get the contract passed (Ron Carey contract exempted). It's strategy, and it works. That's just the way it is.</p><p>I'm sure your correct about retirees healthcare not being (written) in the contract. Personally, I don't believe anything is "non-negotiable" at contract time. I do not believe for a second, for a minimum of 35 years that I can count, UPS decided to take care of retirees for $50 a month for the same high level of healthcare. Only to become $300 a month in 3 years for a lower version of Healthcare. UPS went from a concerned employers, to who cares overnight? Nope! Doesn't make sense.</p><p>Nothing is non negotiable at contract time. That is the way UPS and the Union decided to divide up those $X amount of dollars UPS agreed to pay at contract time. Someone was going to lose something. Active (voting) employees, or retired (non-voting) employees. Cut the active (Voting) employees short, and the Union officials could be out of a job. Cut the retirees, and who cares. They can't do anything!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="twoweeled, post: 2964680, member: 27108"] Maybe we agree, in a nutshell the company agrees to spend $X amount of dollars. It's our choice (sorta) how it gets divided. No doubt it's difficult/impossible to tell employees to sacrifice anything. I feel it has little/nothing to do with foregoing wage increases for employees who may never exist. Let's face it. It's just; what is good for me, right now! That's how some of our past contracts past. It was beneficial for a slight majority and would get the contract passed (Ron Carey contract exempted). It's strategy, and it works. That's just the way it is. I'm sure your correct about retirees healthcare not being (written) in the contract. Personally, I don't believe anything is "non-negotiable" at contract time. I do not believe for a second, for a minimum of 35 years that I can count, UPS decided to take care of retirees for $50 a month for the same high level of healthcare. Only to become $300 a month in 3 years for a lower version of Healthcare. UPS went from a concerned employers, to who cares overnight? Nope! Doesn't make sense. Nothing is non negotiable at contract time. That is the way UPS and the Union decided to divide up those $X amount of dollars UPS agreed to pay at contract time. Someone was going to lose something. Active (voting) employees, or retired (non-voting) employees. Cut the active (Voting) employees short, and the Union officials could be out of a job. Cut the retirees, and who cares. They can't do anything! [/QUOTE]
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